The problem with expensive cavalry is that they only work well if the enemy gives you a weaker target, and does not have commanded shot. They aren't much good against foot.

I prefer to surrender the mounted initiative to the enemy and blow him apart with massed foot.

However, with the Early ...

Please bear in mind that just because DH can fight with full effect in 1 rank, does not necessarily mean that that is the best (or most historical) way to use them.

One advantage of 2 deep DH vs 2 deep Horse is that if the Horse lose a base, they lose a dice, whereas if the DH lose a base, they ...

well, it can be a big advantage .

If the DH get fully deployed, the 2 units would be eight bases wide against the 3 Horse units 6 wide so potentially 14 dice for the DH vs the 12 dice for horse.

cheers
Jim

I am looking at combining Horse with Command shot. So The main advantage I was looking at ...

Is the only advantage of fielding DH instead of Horse, that DH count as fighting with 2 dice for the front rank?

It seems to me that 3 units of 4 Horse, would be better value than 2 units of 4 DH.

Do let us know how you get on.

On paper it makes the Swedes better than the Imperialists, as the enemy horse will be on a minus vs the shot. And if you're ignoring the auto-break rules too....how can they be beaten?


You are right. Your argument makes alot of sense to me! :cry:

No wonder the ...

But under my suggestion having all bases supported

You can have all bases supported using the current rules, by having commanded shot each side of the horse.

That may be your intention. However, in practical terms it does not work.
Firstly it can not work if you are deployed in one rank. Only 2 ...

Good attitude, of course it will slow him down quite a bit!

Under the rules having the commanded shot deployed with the horse makes the Swede Cavalry equal to the Imperialist Cuirassiers. The Swedish player already accepts the movement of 4 compared to 5 as a worthwhile hinderance to make the ...

Of course, in games between consenting adults, there is no reason why you couldn't use mixed horse and shot BGs if you feel that is more appropriate.


I actually fight as the Imperialists! :D

I will let the Swede fight as a "mixed" BG is he prefers. I think that it would definately make the ...

Short answer - because it is necessary that the horse be able to operate away from commanded shot whom they initially deployed with, possibly leaving the latter somewhat vulnerable as happened historically (IIRC Lutzen is an example of this) which would not happen if they were all one BG.

I ...

thanks again, I will check the rules when I get home. (I don't have a copy at the moment.)

I had thought that in the rules that the support was calculated by each base separately?
So that only in this example, only the red DH would count as being supported?

DH DH CS DH DH
DH DH CS DH DH

So apart ...

thanks for the info :D

However it seems to me that this formation is very close to actual formations from battle maps. Also having the shot grouped with the cavalry as a BG would make alot of sense under these rules. It also has the added bonus of all the troops mutually supporting each other ...

Hi All,

I have just started playing TYW in FOG.

I was wondering what is the best way to deploy the Swede cavalry? I am not sure if it is better to deploy in one rank or two?

DH CS DH
DH CS DH

I was wondering if the above formation is legal?

However things seem slow once you get close to the enemy.

My experience is the opposite. I find the initial movement a little slower than Fog AM due to the shorter move distances and lower manoeuvrability, but once the lines get close things happen much quicker, largely due to less delay by ...

I agree that Variable movement is a winner.
I also think that the brigade movement is good.

However things seem slow once you get close to the enemy.

Do troops move double in a charge, then use Variable movement dice?

Last night I charged with a unit of Gendarmes & only moved 2 MUAs!

thanks

I can now see that it means that it may be only part of the support unit that cant shoot.

An 8 base pike/shot BG behind 2 bases of arty:

Do the shot bases shoot as if level with the front of the arty when no enemy is in contact with the arty?



Yes


I am confused. The rules state on p126 (point 2): "Hence a battle group in a position to give rear support to arty is treated for all ...

Are there any clubs that play FOG?
I live in the shire & have multiple 25mm Italian Wars & TYW/ECW armies & have just started FOG>

thanks

After a Light Horse BG successfully evades, are they considered to be disrupted?
thanks