DAW - Der andere Weg - The other way

[Sonja89_1]

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Now you might ask why no other variants were added. I can't speak on behalf of Sonja or whoever contributed to DAW, but it may be due to time constraints.

In the original, there are around 650 different units in the list. In DAW, there are approximately 1,300 – so already double the number. It is true that a significant proportion of the additional units are included via the AMULET component. However, there are still a multitude of other figures in the game, as can be clearly seen from the many image examples.

This mod is not designed to bring an enormous variety of individual unit models onto the screen. There are mods on these pages that do this very extensively. In this mod, I did not want dozens of almost identical units, which severely impair clarity and tend to slow the game down. My priorities lie elsewhere, as has been demonstrated many times on these pages. This is by no means intended as a criticism of mods with a very high level of unit depth. There are some excellent examples of this here.

I am writing this so as not to give the impression that it is simply down to a lack of time.

[Locarnus]

The D-9 series becomes available on June 2, 1944, with the elite variant becoming available on September 1, 1944. However, it has a lower fuel and ammo capacity than the A-series.

I was thinking about improvements of the A-variant itself. In the game it is introduced and then never changes. This although various improvements were issued, from A1 - A10.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. The mod's unit roster is based on Amulet Mod's, in which only two fighter variants of the Fw 190 family are available as well - the aforementioned A version and the D-9 variant.

Now you might ask why no other variants were added. I can't speak on behalf of Sonja or whoever contributed to DAW, but it may be due to time constraints.

In the original, there are around 650 different units in the list. In DAW, there are approximately 1,300 – so already double the number. It is true that a significant proportion of the additional units are included via the AMULET component. However, there are still a multitude of other figures in the game, as can be clearly seen from the many image examples.

This mod is not designed to bring an enormous variety of individual unit models onto the screen. There are mods on these pages that do this very extensively. In this mod, I did not want dozens of almost identical units, which severely impair clarity and tend to slow the game down. My priorities lie elsewhere, as has been demonstrated many times on these pages. This is by no means intended as a criticism of mods with a very high level of unit depth. There are some excellent examples of this here.

I am writing this so as not to give the impression that it is simply down to a lack of time.

Imho the aircraft situation is a directly inherited problem, since it was not the focus at any step.
DAW inherited AMULET values, AMULET inherited vanilla PzC values.
And vanilla PzC had some wildly arbitrary unit values, especially for aircraft.

AMULET corrected some of those stats for ground units, like Sturmpanzer I and 17cm arty ranges, just not all of them (eg Sturmpanzer I availability).

Unfortunately even the wildest vanilla PzC air unit stats were not changed at all (neither combat stats nor availability).
The focus was on the EL and bonus unit rosters, adding a lot of choices in those regards.


Even before some of those PzC random stats were the wildly inconsistent naming schemes in the 1930s and early 1940s.
Eg in the late 1930s a Bf 110 version with a slightly different radioset was assigned its own designation.
Then the naming pendulum swung to the other side, resulting in majorly different aircraft sharing the same designation.

In principle comparable to the next german navy 12000t F-127 warship, which will be called a frigate, same as the totally different german navy 4000t F-128 warship being called a frigate.
Everything above a "Korvette" is a "Fregatte".
Though not on that scale of arbitrary, perhaps only current Japan can keep up with that.

Anyway, it would probably not be fair to amalgamate both those very different ships into one "frigate" entry in a game. Compared to eg another navy unit roster without those purely political naming restrictions.


I fully agree that most players prefer a limited and thus clearer unit roster.
Eg compared to the complex one I personally enjoy.

However imho the contrast between the AMULET large ground unit roster with historically based stats on one hand and the original PzC small fighter aircraft unit roster with wildly arbitrary stats and availability dates on the other hand might be a bit jarring?

[ptje63]

Arrived at OstPolen, May 8, 1942. Im, again, so glad to have found this mod even though it has been around for some time. The previous battle caught me off guard, had to restart it otherwise lost multiple units in encirclement... Those L.13 crack Russian units are hard to deal with, with my Mk.IIIs and IVs . The L.13 movable Flaks cause 5 or 6 damage to my dear Fw.190s.
Im glad the AI is still hopeless clumsy (attacking infantry inside city with tank instead infantry, using arty last instead of first, units getting clogged before a bridge that I block with 2 tanks and arty, etc) - that would have been the ultimate mod to change the game's characteristics. Had multiple times when a unit was down to 1 or 2 points and could have been destroyed completely if AI had done smarter...
Anyway - on to OstPolen - 52 turns my god...

I like the variations of the units available in DAW, not intended as criticism, and appreciate the hard work that goes into a mod like this. Bravo. Danke vielmahls.
I tested the Brandenburger infantry but found this too overwhelming strong, despite the restriction of 3 ammo, so swapped it back for a Sturmpioniere.
The ELITE units are great. The appearance of the 8.8Pak and next the Versuchsjäger fill up the gap from the Pak38/Panzerjäger to the appearance of the StuGIII. Hard to accumulate experience with the Panzerjäger while the tanks gathered their experience in battle. Also come to appreciate the Luftwaffenbauregiment, which costs a core unit but very handy with airfields far away from the front. And then the MGnests, hidden in the bushes - have to admit I bumped into quite a few already by now...

The one thing I am missing is a list of the (hero) units that are awarded throughout the campaign. It affects my choice of buying units or not, as new units bought from 1942/43 onwards gather less experience from then on (and less chance of survival). As said, Im at May 8, 1942 now - have 37 core units slots now and assume this will increase the coming 2 years, but will there be more hero units awarded or captured units found?

And... appreciate this mod is still maintained here . Im one of the (few?) that didnt make the switch from PC to PC2.

[BeADriver]

Im one of the (few?) that didnt make the switch from PC to PC2.

I'm part of that cohort, because there's still a ton of user-made content I want to explore and I haven't completed all of the official campaigns yet.