Cohesion Test bugs

davouthojo · Post by **davouthojo** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:53 am

After dazzam brought it to my attention, I have been watching Cohesion Test rolls.

+1 The battle group is adjacent to a friendly commander

This only seems to apply to CTs from losing impact/melee and routing friends.

It does NOT seem to apply to CTs from missile fire or rallying.

Is this a bug or a feature?

deeter · Post by **deeter** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:30 pm

The +1 should apply in all cases.

Deeter

TheGrayMouser · Post by **TheGrayMouser** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:42 pm

How could you tell if you arent getting the +1 for RALLYING a Bg? Rallying happens after the turn ends so i dont think you can see those dice rolls, or can you? I know from experiance choops rally a lot more when adjacent to a leader so something must be working

keithmartinsmith · Post by **keithmartinsmith** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:18 pm

Checked and the factors do seem to be correct. If you have a screen shot of an issue you can send that would be helpful. Keith

dazzam · Post by **dazzam** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:27 pm

See the pike unit in bottom left of screen tests to rally from being routed and succesfully goes to Fragmented. The inspired gen is next but receives no bonus for being adjacent. Let me know if you can't see the dialogue box in the bottom left and I will try and re-do it.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2298/adjacentgen.png

dazzam · Post by **dazzam** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:32 pm

this one is easier to read

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/2298/adjacentgen.png

TheGrayMouser · Post by **TheGrayMouser** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:37 pm

dazzam wrote:See the pike unit in bottom left of screen tests to rally from being routed and succesfully goes to Fragmented. The inspired gen is next but receives no bonus for being adjacent. Let me know if you can't see the dialogue box in the bottom left and I will try and re-do it.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2298/adjacentgen.png

Thats not a bug Dazzam , although the description in the verbiose rpt is misleading

Rallying is differnt than bonus for testing to see if you LOSE a cohesion level., Rallying is to INCREASE your steadiness

Leaders do not provide any + for being in range for rallying, they have to be adjacent Inspired give +2, troop/field +1

dazzam · Post by **dazzam** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:43 pm

No I tested that as well. For rallying a cohesion level test they got a leader bonus if in range as well. It didn't matter if they were adjacent or not

dazzam · Post by **dazzam** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:55 pm

This one shows one unit routing and he gets the + 1 for the leader being in range but as you can see he is not adjacent. Unfortunately there the change of turn notification has planted itself in the middle of the screen but if you look at the verbose info you will see it must be the only unit routing.

I've done test with both inspired and field gen's and they are treated the same way in terms of adjacent. Inspired get the + 2 for being in range while field get the + 1. Neither get any aditional benefit from being adjacent other than the unit in rear flank + 1

http://img69.imageshack.us/f/nonadjacentgen.png/

davouthojo · Post by **davouthojo** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:43 am

I'm surprised your testing did not confirm this. Two screenshots, 2 MF units are fired on and take and fail cohesion tests.
See in the detail window the +1 for being in command radius, but no +1 for being adjacent.

dazzam · Post by **dazzam** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:00 am

Yes my testing confirmed the same. Adjacent general had no impact on cohesion test when testing after missile fire..other than being within the radius. Tested generals adjacent and 2 hexes behind and each test got the + 1 for being within radius.

TheGrayMouser · Post by **TheGrayMouser** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:53 pm

Well, Im quite embarrased here, made a mistake and refered to the manual which appears to have the bonus for rallying and cohesion tests at least partially backwards.... or Im wrong , or there is bugs in the game... I am quite confused!!!!

Can Hexwar please make a simple chart of how it is supposed to be! I now am about to join the "fix the manual now" crowd

davouthojo · Post by **davouthojo** » Wed May 04, 2011 6:10 am

Any response on this?

davouthojo · Post by **davouthojo** » Tue May 24, 2011 5:04 am