artillery shooting through the enemy

footslogger · Post by **footslogger** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:30 pm

I'm not sure I'm missing something.

It looks like from the shooting priority section that artillery can shoot at anything in the arc of fire. And it looks like from the line of sight section that enemy bodies don't block line of sight. So if the enemy has a body of MF in front of a body of horse both beyond 8MUs but within range of the guns, the guns can shoot at the horse. I'm fine with that, but have doubts because of the last line of overhead shooting which says that m&h arty can shoot over enemy artillery (which seems unnecessary if I haven't missed something else in the above).

Thanks

deadtorius · Post by **deadtorius** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:19 am

I believe that you can shoot through enemy skirmishers but can only shoot over, not through other enemy troops. You have to be either on a hill or they have to be on a hill so the arty can see them. Also if the enemy is within 3 MU of the arty they have to shoot the closest enemy, otherwise any target of their choice in range and arc can be shot at.
Looks like it might have been an omission or I have been playing it wrong, but it does seem odd that enemy troops do not block line of sight if you are both on the same elevation...

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:06 am

deadtorius wrote:I believe that you can shoot through enemy skirmishers but can only shoot over, not through other enemy troops. You have to be either on a hill or they have to be on a hill so the arty can see them. Also if the enemy is within 3 MU of the arty they have to shoot the closest enemy, otherwise any target of their choice in range and arc can be shot at.
Looks like it might have been an omission or I have been playing it wrong, but it does seem odd that enemy troops do not block line of sight if you are both on the same elevation...

It is implicit in the overhead shooting section, but I agree that it should have been stated explicitly. Will look into adding that to the errata.

footslogger · Post by **footslogger** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:48 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:
deadtorius wrote:I believe that you can shoot through enemy skirmishers but can only shoot over, not through other enemy troops. You have to be either on a hill or they have to be on a hill so the arty can see them. Also if the enemy is within 3 MU of the arty they have to shoot the closest enemy, otherwise any target of their choice in range and arc can be shot at.
Looks like it might have been an omission or I have been playing it wrong, but it does seem odd that enemy troops do not block line of sight if you are both on the same elevation...
It is implicit in the overhead shooting section, but I agree that it should have been stated explicitly. Will look into adding that to the errata.

Does making "friendly troops" instead "friendly or enemy troops" on page 108 of the line of sight rules fix this completely?

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Thu May 19, 2011 5:28 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:
deadtorius wrote:I believe that you can shoot through enemy skirmishers but can only shoot over, not through other enemy troops. You have to be either on a hill or they have to be on a hill so the arty can see them. Also if the enemy is within 3 MU of the arty they have to shoot the closest enemy, otherwise any target of their choice in range and arc can be shot at.
Looks like it might have been an omission or I have been playing it wrong, but it does seem odd that enemy troops do not block line of sight if you are both on the same elevation...
It is implicit in the overhead shooting section, but I agree that it should have been stated explicitly. Will look into adding that to the errata.

So artillery cannot shoot through (over) enemy artillery and hit the supporting foot behind the guns?

Scrumpy · Post by **Scrumpy** » Thu May 19, 2011 6:25 pm

The rulebook states you can fire through enemy guns to hit a target behind it. Not got the book to hand to quote the rule, but I know we found it read that last night Dan.

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Thu May 19, 2011 7:09 pm

hazelbark wrote:
rbodleyscott wrote:
deadtorius wrote:I believe that you can shoot through enemy skirmishers but can only shoot over, not through other enemy troops. You have to be either on a hill or they have to be on a hill so the arty can see them. Also if the enemy is within 3 MU of the arty they have to shoot the closest enemy, otherwise any target of their choice in range and arc can be shot at.
Looks like it might have been an omission or I have been playing it wrong, but it does seem odd that enemy troops do not block line of sight if you are both on the same elevation...
It is implicit in the overhead shooting section, but I agree that it should have been stated explicitly. Will look into adding that to the errata.
So artillery cannot shoot through (over) enemy artillery and hit the supporting foot behind the guns?

Medium and heavy artillery are explicitly allowed to shoot over enemy artillery at eligible targets beyond.