Modern Conflicts : World War III campaigns

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[bondjamesbond]

It will be difficult. China has many infantry units and a decent navy, but Russia has an advantage in nuclear warheads, air defense systems, and technologically advanced aviation. The Pacific Fleet is constantly replenished with new corvettes and strategic submarines. The resilience and courage of the Russian border guards, as well as the marines from the 155th Marine Division, along with airborne units, will repel the intervention of the PLA. However, in a two-front war in the west against NATO and in the east against China, it will be difficult to hold out for long. The Oreshnik system with tactical warheads and the MiG-31 with Dinkzhal systems enter the picture. Yes, it would be tactically useful to play out such a scenario: Allies - not Allies! A map for such a scenario is needed, along with perseverance, time, and the skill of our esteemed modders.

It has been proven by Soviet border guards at Damansky that the Chinese can never stand up to Russia!!! As history shows, there have always been plenty of Chinese, which didn’t stop them from getting a beating – first from the Mongols, then from the Japanese, later from the Europeans (remember the Opium Wars), the Vietnamese and the Soviets, and so on! The only thing they’re strong at these days is buying up European profiteers along with their plants and factories!!!


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[Imeror]

I'd like to ask modders to include modern orders and medals for each side in the reward system. This adds a lot of atmosphere and encourages players to conserve their core army and deploy their guards in the main strategic operations, defeating and encircling the enemy.

In fact, Akkula has already done the work for the factions that have a campaign in the base game.

Here is the list of "modern" rewards included in the mod :



Some factions retain decorations dating back to World War II, meaning they do not appear in this list of unlockable awards.
For example, American units have the same Medal of Honor as their highest award, whether in the base 1944 game or in a Modern Conflict scenario. Akkula didn't add them again, consequently.

I am using the same decoration system as the base mod, so units from the "main" factions are indeed be able to unlock decorations.
For example, here is a russian tank unit that follow me since the first expedition in Syria :



My tank crews are Heroes of the Russian Federation

That said, the factions I want to give a campaign to but that don't have one in the base game currently lack decorations, since I've not added them. As it stands, this applies to my Serbian and Ukrainian campaigns.

I had considered adding them along with the "heroes mini-mod," but I figured it was just a minor detail and that no one really paid attention to decorations.
Well, it turns out I was wrong! I’ll try to add decorations for the Serbs and Ukrainians in future updates.

By the way, if anyone would like to help me out: I’d like to get a list of three (or more) suitable decorations for each of these armies.
I’m not really into "decorations and ceremonies," so I don't quite know which ones would be the best fit.
To give you a bit of a spoiler, I also plan to start Finnish and North Korean campaigns relatively soon (they’re scheduled for parts 5 and 6, so it's not that urgent), so I’d appreciate some suggestions for those two as well, with serbian and ukrainian awards.

[Imeror]

What if China invades Russia – the war that no one wants ?

China and Russia now have a close strategic relationship, but it could change course. If China decides to invade its neighbor for its resources, a massive conflict would erupt in Eurasia. Despite its numerical superiority, the Chinese army would face a huge territory that is difficult to conquer. For its part, Russia has a powerful military arsenal, including nuclear weapons, capable of changing the outcome of the conflict. A protracted war would result in colossal losses and global economic consequences. The ultimate risk would remain a nuclear escalation, threatening the balance of the entire planet.

Actually, that’s an idea I’ve considered for the (distant) future of my story. I might have kept it, or I might not... no spoilers

In any case, it would offer a chance to switch up the adversaries a bit during the campaign. I’d like to avoid ending up with scenarios where we’re always facing the same opponents; NATO versus Russia/China could get repetitive after several campaigns like that.
And even though it’s still an unlikely scenario today, the chances of a shift like that happening aren't zero. With certain events pushing things in that direction, it’s a possible development in the decade(s) to come.

In any case, it would allow for interesting scenarios.

I'm definitely keeping the idea in my mind. I don't intend to carry it out right now, but maybe it will spark some new ideas for Tobi (or someone else, who knows?).

I've still not played Tobi's conquest of Taiwan, but I guess the PLA need a new target, now

[Imeror]

It has been proven by Soviet border guards at Damansky that the Chinese can never stand up to Russia!!! As history shows, there have always been plenty of Chinese, which didn’t stop them from getting a beating – first from the Mongols, then from the Japanese, later from the Europeans (remember the Opium Wars), the Vietnamese and the Soviets, and so on! The only thing they’re strong at these days is buying up European profiteers along with their plants and factories!!!

I would be cautious: history doesn't show the Chinese to be poor fighters; rather, it shows that the last few centuries were harsh for them.

When I look at the available equipment and their theoretical orders of battle, I tell to myself me that the Chinese army of 2023 bears NO resemblance to the Chinese army of 1980. This time, they have both quantity and quality.
In the event of a confrontation with Russia, I would actually bet on a Chinese victory, especially if Russia is already tied up in another major theater of operations in the West. History also shows that a two-front war is the sort of event that can bring down great empires.

However, combat experience is one of an army's key assets. We haven't really seen the Chinese army deployed anywhere outside of exercises. By contrast, Russia has been engaged in a major war for four years, not to mention smaller deployments elsewhere in the world, so I think the initial battles would be tough for the Chinese.
That said, it is worth noting that they possess the strategic depth to absorb a few defeats before going back on track. They would likely acquire the missing experience quite quickly.

The advantage of experience is that it can be gained quite quickly. And when you have a population of 1.4 billion, you can afford to suffer a few nasty defeats during the opening months of a conflict.

The Soviet army during World War II serves as a prime example.
The German army was already battle-hardened after two years of fighting in other theaters and managed to punch through Soviet defenses for hundreds of kilometers; however, the situation became vastly more complicated when the inexperienced young Soviet soldiers of 1941 evolved into battle-hardened fighters by 1942. Without even talking about equipment, combat experience drove doctrinal evolution, transformed raw recruits into fierce veterans, and allowed a new, more competent generation of officers to emerge.

So, even if the Chinese army were to lose a few initial battles against the Russians, I believe they possess the depth to absorb those setbacks and quickly learn how to win the subsequent engagements.


All that to say, I wouldn't necessarily count the Chinese out

[bondjamesbond]

It has been proven by Soviet border guards at Damansky that the Chinese can never stand up to Russia!!! As history shows, there have always been plenty of Chinese, which didn’t stop them from getting a beating – first from the Mongols, then from the Japanese, later from the Europeans (remember the Opium Wars), the Vietnamese and the Soviets, and so on! The only thing they’re strong at these days is buying up European profiteers along with their plants and factories!!!

I would be cautious: history doesn't show the Chinese to be poor fighters; rather, it shows that the last few centuries were harsh for them.

When I look at the available equipment and their theoretical orders of battle, I tell to myself me that the Chinese army of 2023 bears NO resemblance to the Chinese army of 1980. This time, they have both quantity and quality.
In the event of a confrontation with Russia, I would actually bet on a Chinese victory, especially if Russia is already tied up in another major theater of operations in the West. History also shows that a two-front war is the sort of event that can bring down great empires.

However, combat experience is one of an army's key assets. We haven't really seen the Chinese army deployed anywhere outside of exercises. By contrast, Russia has been engaged in a major war for four years, not to mention smaller deployments elsewhere in the world, so I think the initial battles would be tough for the Chinese.
That said, it is worth noting that they possess the strategic depth to absorb a few defeats before going back on track. They would likely acquire the missing experience quite quickly.

The advantage of experience is that it can be gained quite quickly. And when you have a population of 1.4 billion, you can afford to suffer a few nasty defeats during the opening months of a conflict.

The Soviet army during World War II serves as a prime example.
The German army was already battle-hardened after two years of fighting in other theaters and managed to punch through Soviet defenses for hundreds of kilometers; however, the situation became vastly more complicated when the inexperienced young Soviet soldiers of 1941 evolved into battle-hardened fighters by 1942. Without even talking about equipment, combat experience drove doctrinal evolution, transformed raw recruits into fierce veterans, and allowed a new, more competent generation of officers to emerge.

So, even if the Chinese army were to lose a few initial battles against the Russians, I believe they possess the depth to absorb those setbacks and quickly learn how to win the subsequent engagements.


All that to say, I wouldn't necessarily count the Chinese out

China will not attack Russia, so the Europeans’ dreams of pitting the Russians against just about anyone are futile – enough of this ‘we’ll hold back the Russian Federation until the last Ukrainian’ show! China has a rival in India, whose population is only slightly smaller than China’s own! As for powerful armies, everyone was predicting a victory for the US and Israel over the Iranians; in the end, Iran defeated the world’s number one army, which never managed to break their spirit and morale! Well, now let’s get back to the game, as you’ve got carried away with your cyborg fantasies )))
In any new world war, the main thing is that France doesn’t surrender within a month!!!

[Imeror]

China will not attack Russia, so the Europeans’ dreams of pitting the Russians against just about anyone are futile – enough of this ‘we’ll hold back the Russian Federation until the last Ukrainian’ show! China has a rival in India, whose population is only slightly smaller than China’s own!

It is more of an observation regarding their divergent interests than a hope.
The desire to form a bloc to overturn alleged Western dominance features prominently in official Russian communication, but far less so in the Chinese narrative.
China is generally pursuing a policy of cooperation as long as interests align on certain issues. However, there is no overt desire to get militarily involved in Russian affairs or to prop up Russia should it face a collapse.
Chinese diplomacy is highly pragmatic, and Beijing would have no qualms about scaling back ties with a partner that became a liability.

At present, a "stab in the back" is certainly not on the cards, though the possibility remains for the more distant future.
It would only take the bilateral relationship continuing to tilt in China's favor, combined with a more aggressive new General Secretary taking the helm of the Party, for this scenario to become a possibility. It would remain highly unlikely, but the potential would exist.

Who would have predicted three years ago that a US president would throw his full weight behind an attempt to acquire Greenland?
Things change, and it would be a mistake to assume that any situation is permanent.


However, it goes without saying that if one were to compile a list of potential regional rivals for China, India would rank much higher than Russia.
And that works out well, as I have no intention of letting the Indian units created by Akkula sit idle indefinitely.

As for powerful armies, everyone was predicting a victory for the US and Israel over the Iranians; in the end, Iran defeated the world’s number one army, which never managed to break their spirit and morale!

To tell the truth, everyone saw this coming (except the Americans).

There is a saying: when a captain doesn't know which port to head for, no wind is favorable.
Yet here, there was neither strategy nor objective in this war. I think anyone around the world who has studied strategy -even casually- must have torn their hair out at such a mess.
To quote Clausewitz: "War is merely the continuation of politics by other means." Yet, the strategy boiled down to "smash everything until they surrender." But as for what they were actually demanding, I doubt even they knew themselves.
But I gather the POTUS just wanted to show off that he had the biggest one, without the slightest idea of ​​how military affairs work.

I was not hard to predict the outcome, entire books could be written about this failure.
It was the perfect compilation of everything you shouldn't do when starting a war.

In any new world war, the main thing is that France doesn’t surrender within a month!!!

You know the joke?

"I run the best bar in town, but nobody calls me Peter the Bartender.
I built all the furniture, but nobody calls me Peter the Carpenter.
I serve the best food around, but nobody calls me Peter the Cook.
But I ****** a goat just one time, and..."

[bondjamesbond]

China will not attack Russia, so the Europeans’ dreams of pitting the Russians against just about anyone are futile – enough of this ‘we’ll hold back the Russian Federation until the last Ukrainian’ show! China has a rival in India, whose population is only slightly smaller than China’s own!

It is more of an observation regarding their divergent interests than a hope.
The desire to form a bloc to overturn alleged Western dominance features prominently in official Russian communication, but far less so in the Chinese narrative.
China is generally pursuing a policy of cooperation as long as interests align on certain issues. However, there is no overt desire to get militarily involved in Russian affairs or to prop up Russia should it face a collapse.
Chinese diplomacy is highly pragmatic, and Beijing would have no qualms about scaling back ties with a partner that became a liability.

At present, a "stab in the back" is certainly not on the cards, though the possibility remains for the more distant future.
It would only take the bilateral relationship continuing to tilt in China's favor, combined with a more aggressive new General Secretary taking the helm of the Party, for this scenario to become a possibility. It would remain highly unlikely, but the potential would exist.

Who would have predicted three years ago that a US president would throw his full weight behind an attempt to acquire Greenland?
Things change, and it would be a mistake to assume that any situation is permanent.


However, it goes without saying that if one were to compile a list of potential regional rivals for China, India would rank much higher than Russia.
And that works out well, as I have no intention of letting the Indian units created by Akkula sit idle indefinitely.

As for powerful armies, everyone was predicting a victory for the US and Israel over the Iranians; in the end, Iran defeated the world’s number one army, which never managed to break their spirit and morale!

To tell the truth, everyone saw this coming (except the Americans).

There is a saying: when a captain doesn't know which port to head for, no wind is favorable.
Yet here, there was neither strategy nor objective in this war. I think anyone around the world who has studied strategy -even casually- must have torn their hair out at such a mess.
To quote Clausewitz: "War is merely the continuation of politics by other means." Yet, the strategy boiled down to "smash everything until they surrender." But as for what they were actually demanding, I doubt even they knew themselves.
But I gather the POTUS just wanted to show off that he had the biggest one, without the slightest idea of ​​how military affairs work.

I was not hard to predict the outcome, entire books could be written about this failure.
It was the perfect compilation of everything you shouldn't do when starting a war.

In any new world war, the main thing is that France doesn’t surrender within a month!!!

You know the joke?

"I run the best bar in town, but nobody calls me Peter the Bartender.
I built all the furniture, but nobody calls me Peter the Carpenter.
I serve the best food around, but nobody calls me Peter the Cook.
But I ****** a goat just one time, and..."

You can sleep soundly until 2050, because neither the Russians nor the Chinese stand to gain from a war between themselves—one that would only weaken both sides and restore Europe and the U.S. to their former glory! China is wise—instead of waging wars, it prefers to buy up countries, so an economic war is already underway, and whatever God didn’t create has been made in China! The U.S. is winding down its presence in Europe, so all this muscle-flexing by old Europe just provokes laughter and irritation ))) Well, Russia simply needs to stop selling you oil and gas—let’s see how long you can hold out then! Revolutions will sweep over you, since people value warmth and comfort ))) But that’s all just poetry—let’s get back to our favorite game, dear hawks and dreamers!!!



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