Axis Operations - 1943 is coming soon

[Tassadar]

Some observations...

"Kummersdorf 43" strongly suggests another training scenario

And possibly that would be the very last training scenario in the series. Given how in 1944 and 1945 the situation became critical and forced sending inexperienced soldiers it would probably not make much sense to allow to suddenly train up fresh troops.

[GUNDOBALDO08]

Are there any new units ?

on one of screenshots it looks liek there is škoda t24 tank

IMO this is a Pz.Kpfw.T-34-747(r) or better a captured T34 with 75mm kvk 40 german gun…

[Bee1976]

And possibly that would be the very last training scenario in the series. Given how in 1944 and 1945 the situation became critical and forced sending inexperienced soldiers it would probably not make much sense to allow to suddenly train up fresh troops.

The "Heeresversuchsanstalt Kummersdorf" was used til 1945 als Weapon Development and Weapon Test Facility (?). So there is at least the chance to see Kummersdorf again in 1944 on the historical path. Ahistorical if there is a real path for it, we will see it til 1945 i would assume.

[SirAllan]

wow thats greate news and I have ofcorse applied for becoming a betatester again - looking forward to test it

[adiekmann]

When you look carefully at the above image, you'll notice that the Soviet Il-2 bombers will provide support fire if the selected Elefant follows through on its attack on the Russian fortification. That means they must have AT Support heroes on them! That means by default, some of the Soviet units have been given a non-random hero! Finally! Always a good way to increase the challenge of a level and the AI's forces.

[adiekmann]

Another thing I noticed while studying the screenshots from the store...

In the Operation Roland screenshot you will notice that the core slots are listed as 160/80. That, plus the fact that the units depicted in the image are named, "6th Army" gives away a big hint as to what probably is going on in that scenario. For those you who haven't put it together yourself, it means that you probably begin the scenario with 80 core slots, and if you saved 6th Army at the end of AO42, you get a sudden big infusion of 4 star experienced reinforcements (80 slots worth) as auxiliaries at some point during the scenario. I'm guessing that it is probably rather difficult to meet all the mission objectives without their assistance, but we will see.

EDIT: Actually, I did not notice the turn shown in the image: (0,20). So it would appear you start the scenario with them if you saved them in the previous DLC.

[Sequester Grundleplith, MD]

Another thing I noticed while studying the screenshots from the store...

In the Operation Roland screenshot you will notice that the core slots are listed as 160/80. That, plus the fact that the units depicted in the image are named, "6th Army" gives away a big hint as to what probably is going on in that scenario. For those you who haven't put it together yourself, it means that you probably begin the scenario with 80 core slots, and if you saved 6th Army at the end of AO42, you get a sudden big infusion of 4 star experienced reinforcements (80 slots worth) as auxiliaries at some point during the scenario. I'm guessing that it is probably rather difficult to meet all the mission objectives without their assistance, but we will see.

EDIT: Actually, I did not notice the turn shown in the image: (0,20). So it would appear you start the scenario with them if you saved them in the previous DLC.

Kummersdorf screenshot is also 30 slots over the stated core limit. Even if the 262 squadron was 20 strength, that would only be 20ish slots, I think, so presumably we're getting some second unit also

[Wolfenguard]

Another thing I noticed while studying the screenshots from the store...

In the Operation Roland screenshot you will notice that the core slots are listed as 160/80. That, plus the fact that the units depicted in the image are named, "6th Army" gives away a big hint as to what probably is going on in that scenario. For those you who haven't put it together yourself, it means that you probably begin the scenario with 80 core slots, and if you saved 6th Army at the end of AO42, you get a sudden big infusion of 4 star experienced reinforcements (80 slots worth) as auxiliaries at some point during the scenario. I'm guessing that it is probably rather difficult to meet all the mission objectives without their assistance, but we will see.

EDIT: Actually, I did not notice the turn shown in the image: (0,20). So it would appear you start the scenario with them if you saved them in the previous DLC.

Kummersdorf screenshot is also 30 slots over the stated core limit. Even if the 262 squadron was 20 strength, that would only be 20ish slots, I think, so presumably we're getting some second unit also

what i found a more interesting part in the Roland screenshot, is the part with the alt history goal. The 4 victory hexes are all directly right of the spawn zone, and all 11 secondary objektives are in the north. Here can be the first big Question, get we an other toker for the alt history part if we complete them or will we play on a different map. Like alternate history 6 army spawn and attack the victory hexes and we can try to help and capture the secondaey vic hexes. and in the normal variant we play on a different map, whithout the 6 Army troops . Or the same map without high xp 6 army troops.

for Kummersdorf i think the core slots are not a big part to see if we get new units or not for free or with a token or cp. The amount of the core slots is a little big high, especially when we look at the other training missions. when i think back to the one trainingmission where we can get the two exp AT units (5streng max and the one where we get only 15 units) we use all our Core Slots for the units we want to train and get the 2 units.

i think in the kummersdorf scenario we get some more Core Slots for training our new units for a new mass attack try to break the russian front. there are a lot of training dummys to attack

[Wolfenguard]

When you look carefully at the above image, you'll notice that the Soviet Il-2 bombers will provide support fire if the selected Elefant follows through on its attack on the Russian fortification. That means they must have AT Support heroes on them! That means by default, some of the Soviet units have been given a non-random hero! Finally! Always a good way to increase the challenge of a level and the AI's forces.

in the different maps, some air units have skilled heroes too, this is maybe the first time we see the AT support one. in one of the 42 Stallingrad mission i think we see 1 or 2 russian Air Force units with some heroes on them which where called "Nightwitches" dont know if the name is the correct one, but from knowledge i think the nightwitches where one of the top female Airforces who fight in the battle of Stallingrad

[terminator]

This DLC seems already well advanced, I hope that the Beta will not be too short.

[adiekmann]

Another thing I noticed while studying the screenshots from the store...

In the Operation Roland screenshot you will notice that the core slots are listed as 160/80. That, plus the fact that the units depicted in the image are named, "6th Army" gives away a big hint as to what probably is going on in that scenario. For those you who haven't put it together yourself, it means that you probably begin the scenario with 80 core slots, and if you saved 6th Army at the end of AO42, you get a sudden big infusion of 4 star experienced reinforcements (80 slots worth) as auxiliaries at some point during the scenario. I'm guessing that it is probably rather difficult to meet all the mission objectives without their assistance, but we will see.

EDIT: Actually, I did not notice the turn shown in the image: (0,20). So it would appear you start the scenario with them if you saved them in the previous DLC.

Kummersdorf screenshot is also 30 slots over the stated core limit. Even if the 262 squadron was 20 strength, that would only be 20ish slots, I think, so presumably we're getting some second unit also

what i found a more interesting part in the Roland screenshot, is the part with the alt history goal. The 4 victory hexes are all directly right of the spawn zone, and all 11 secondary objektives are in the north. Here can be the first big Question, get we an other toker for the alt history part if we complete them or will we play on a different map. Like alternate history 6 army spawn and attack the victory hexes and we can try to help and capture the secondaey vic hexes. and in the normal variant we play on a different map, whithout the 6 Army troops . Or the same map without high xp 6 army troops.

for Kummersdorf i think the core slots are not a big part to see if we get new units or not for free or with a token or cp. The amount of the core slots is a little big high, especially when we look at the other training missions. when i think back to the one trainingmission where we can get the two exp AT units (5streng max and the one where we get only 15 units) we use all our Core Slots for the units we want to train and get the 2 units.

i think in the kummersdorf scenario we get some more Core Slots for training our new units for a new mass attack try to break the russian front. there are a lot of training dummys to attack

All the minefields and the 30 over the limit core slots in the Training scenario...you're right; it can't all be from the Me 262. So there must be another gift unit involved. Perhaps a special mine-clearing tank/vehicle?

[Thunderhog]

I like the red wingtips on the bombers there. Were you able to do that before? That'd be good to mark elite units

[Wolfenguard]

I like the red wingtips on the bombers there. Were you able to do that before? That'd be good to mark elite units

The Red wingtip is a normal skin you can choose for your units. I don't know if the skin is paar of the normal pc2 version or if you need one of the other version General aso.
I use the different skins in the dlcs for my Tanks. One for the p3 and a Different for the p4, so I can See optimal which obe is stronger against Tanks or Infanterie. The same for my air units.

[robman]

I like the red wingtips on the bombers there. Were you able to do that before? That'd be good to mark elite units

That skin (along with many others) is available in the General Edition upgrade. It’s listed as a DLC and costs about $10.

[Thunderhog]

I like the red wingtips on the bombers there. Were you able to do that before? That'd be good to mark elite units

That skin (along with many others) is available in the General Edition upgrade. It’s listed as a DLC and costs about $10.

I have that version, probably just didn't see the option

[Wagner0445]

Some observations...

"Kummersdorf 43" strongly suggests another training scenario

From the description, it appears both pathways, ahistorical and historical, are contained in the same DLC. That makes me believe that the actual playable path is rather short, though it is hard to know exactly how long at this quick glance at the scenario list. I am guessing at some point you are giving a different path depending on how you chose to finish AO42, or more specifically, the final Stalingrad scenarios.

My best guess is that everyone plays the same beginning scenarios and the decisive moment where the pathways fork occur during the Kursk offensive. The remaining scenarios are divided between the two different forks thereafter.

At the one Screenshot, you can see the training Scenario and a new Special Hero

i think the Campaign will be the same for both Paths, maybe we get some more special Tokens at some Maps, so we can reach Mission Goals Easier like trough a AI Friend who joind the battle at turn x or the ai Friend had more and bether units. Like we saved the 6. Army and now they fight with Units with have more XP, because we saved the veterans and they dont have to fight with complete untrained Men. An Other example can be, more or other Mission Goals who only shows if we have this or this token so we can get more CP for Special Events, which we can use to start at one final scenario more special Events which leads to the alt history Path.

Not really. Look at the scenario list. In it is a Scenario Called Return to Stalingrad and other scenarios Which play in the Caucasus. And the devs already confirmed that the paths will change the war drastically.

And on top of that, it's historically realistic. With the men of the 6. Army the battle of Kursk could have ended in a victory for Germany. The Germans failed at Kursk because they lacked the men to secure the salient meaning for every Km they captured their offensive power decreased cause they had to leave units behind to protect the flank.

What will be interesting is how they incorporate that in the 1944 DLC

[Raganr129]

I think we've totally earned a dev diary btw

[mrgolf]

I think it's been posted somewhere in this thread that there will be no DLC after 1943, as things started to go downhill in 1944. Also, it would be difficult to accurately depict German troops, as there became an increasing number of divisions made up of a hodgepodge of troops.

[terminator]

I think it's been posted somewhere in this thread that there will be no DLC after 1943, as things started to go downhill in 1944. Also, it would be difficult to accurately depict German troops, as there became an increasing number of divisions made up of a hodgepodge of troops.

As long as the game sells there will be DLCs and there is no reason to stop after 1943.

[George_Parr]

I think it's been posted somewhere in this thread that there will be no DLC after 1943, as things started to go downhill in 1944. Also, it would be difficult to accurately depict German troops, as there became an increasing number of divisions made up of a hodgepodge of troops.

Yeah, no. There is nothing that supports this theory.

Panzer Corps had a full Grand Campaign that lasted until 1945, with a split for the east and west. There is no reason why the sequel would just stop in 1943. Especially since this time around they even have an alternate history path early on. Not that you need to be winning to have a reason for a campaign.