1943 and Pacific

[GomezAdams]

That's typical for a very small business of any kind. You hit issues and problems you didn't foresee so it slows down a project. Next thing you know you think it might be a better idea to finish off another project that seems to be going well and then get back to the road block issues on the other project.

The problem with that approach, however, is that you could run into a similar roadblock on that project as well. That puts you into a position where you're playing 'Whack-A-Mole' with problems to get anything moving at all.

The good news is that being a small developer they typically eventually figure things out and get back on track without passing on the costs to us. A bigger developer would just hurl money at the problem which would of course jack the price of the final product up.

That's why a Blizzard / Activision / EA Sports game that was originally thought to cost $40.00 winds up costing $60.00 or more when it eventually is released.

[heinz1803]

The game engine is finished. Not much development needed. But why the hell to start another 2 scenarios dlc at the same time when the struggle to finish at least one of 2 in 8 months. That's not management, that's chaos.

[PaxusZero]

Perhaps they are going back to the 1943 ahistorical route and creating a Ukranian resistance force that will: join your general, help overthrow the current German government and install true democracy, and fights on Ukranian land with a +10 to all stats.

[Edmon]

I asked on Steam for an update and got basically the same answer there (from Edmon) including a link for the video. Now im confused even more.
- Pacific was announced 8 months ago, why wasnt there even a screenshot since then or any vague info for release? I mean they must at least have an internal roadmap saying like second half of 2022, first half of 2023.
- Why are there debates which should come out first or gets priority when 2 totally independent teams are working on it?
- If they have such limited manpower, why on earth are there 2 other DLCs in the making? And by whom?

Im really patient but this is getting more and more confusing.

Hey guys,

Marco mispoke at TeaTime. There are 2 extra DLC's planned but work will not start on them until Pacific and AO43 are completed.

He was just trying to convey that we have lots of plans for Panzer Corps 2, so no need to worry about the games future.

We promise to have a proper update for you guys on everything as soon as possible and we're really sorry for the delays.

Regards,
Edmon

[calmhatchery]

Big thanks Edmon !!! All the best for you !!!

[heinz1803]

We promise to have a proper update for you guys on everything as soon as possible and we're really sorry for the delays.

As soon as possible is now the only information we got for over 8 months.

[GomezAdams]

As soon as possible is now the only information we got for over 8 months.

At least here they talk to you. Try getting that anywhere else.

[Thunderhog]

We promise to have a proper update for you guys on everything as soon as possible and we're really sorry for the delays.

As soon as possible is now the only information we got for over 8 months.

Well they were on brake for a little while in late 2021, and lots of devs were sick with covid. I'm sure lots of the work is already done and news will come soon.

[heinz1803]

We promise to have a proper update for you guys on everything as soon as possible and we're really sorry for the delays.

As soon as possible is now the only information we got for over 8 months.

Well they were on brake for a little while in late 2021, and lots of devs were sick with covid. I'm sure lots of the work is already done and news will come soon.

During the first Covid year, they had no problem to release four DLC for the game. Since the fifth DLC in July, they could not release at least a picture of a future DLC. Soon as possible is very flexible here.

[Thunderhog]

As soon as possible is now the only information we got for over 8 months.

Well they were on brake for a little while in late 2021, and lots of devs were sick with covid. I'm sure lots of the work is already done and news will come soon.

During the first Covid year, they had no problem to release four DLC for the game. Since the fifth DLC in July, they could not release at least a picture of a future DLC. Soon as possible is very flexible here.

Yes but lots of them weren't out with covid during the first year, they've literally said lots of devs caught covid this year, and since July they were on break, I believe

[DefiantXYX]

Yes but lots of them weren't out with covid during the first year, they've literally said lots of devs caught covid this year, and since July they were on break, I believe

What does that mean? You are sick for 2 weeks or in quarantine. It was/is still unlikely to get infected and it is even more unlikely, that you really get sick and cant work for month. As long as the developers dont party every day and are not vaccinated
Not sure if the guys have to be in the office to be able to work, my guess is most of the work could be done on remote.

No offense to anyone, just saying corona sounds like a cheap excuse.

I also cant wait for the DLCs, but I prefer to wait a play a final version, rather than playing a Beta, so keep your time

[airbornemongo101]

Gentlemen,

The DLC will come out when it comes out, this is a game...not the cure for effing' cancer

I'm sure that the devs want to get the product out, because while for us this a game, to them it's their livelihood and if they aren't producing content, they ain't making no moola'

I also can say as an older (not necessarily wiser, but well experienced) individual that things effect people differently, as a matter of fact I'm in that situation personally right now

So please, stop, when we get the product we get it, if we don't, we don't. We have all spent money and for a product and so far, we've been entertained, if that trend continues, great. if it does not...oh well, but harping and complaininng about it solves nothing.

A question was asked, a question was answered, an apology given, if that's not enough walk away, again it's just a game

[PaxusZero]

To add on: I am frustrated. We are all probably frustrated. But personally attacking the team (and make no mistakes, implying they are sandbagging or not effective enough based on a variety of reasons) gets absolutely nowhere.

Air our frustrations? Of course! They signed up for that.

Demand updates? 100%! We are (some of us) beta testers. We are (all of us) current paying customers and their future paying customers.

Attack them? What's the point of it? It makes no one feel good and no one will win.

[CaptainRope1]

I wonder how are they going to do a Japanese Campaign story we the general or admiral will have to be a a special person or we are under the emporeor of Japan. Cause there is no way you can have control of naval and ground stuff at the same time cause both the Japanese Army and Naval hate each other or the many many war crimes the Japanese did and still be sympathies for our troops but it will still be fun

[VirgilInTheSKY]

I wonder how are they going to do a Japanese Campaign story we the general or admiral will have to be a a special person or we are under the emporeor of Japan. Cause there is no way you can have control of naval and ground stuff at the same time cause both the Japanese Army and Naval hate each other or the many many war crimes the Japanese did and still be sympathies for our troops but it will still be fun

Or do you think a German general can command Luftwaffe, Wehrmacht and Kriegsmarine in the same time? This is just a game, let those reality issues stay at where they are. The Imperial Japanese Army and the Imperial Japanese Navy did have cooperations when it comes to naval landing warfare, some of them even well executed, that's all. Nazi Germany also have done a lot of war crimes, yet there isn't anything this game has touched, and I think the develop team won't touch them.

[CaptainRope1]

I wonder how are they going to do a Japanese Campaign story we the general or admiral will have to be a a special person or we are under the emporeor of Japan. Cause there is no way you can have control of naval and ground stuff at the same time cause both the Japanese Army and Naval hate each other or the many many war crimes the Japanese did and still be sympathies for our troops but it will still be fun

Or do you think a German general can command Luftwaffe, Wehrmacht and Kriegsmarine in the same time? This is just a game, let those reality issues stay at where they are. The Imperial Japanese Army and the Imperial Japanese Navy did have cooperations when it comes to naval landing warfare, some of them even well executed, that's all. Nazi Germany also have done a lot of war crimes, yet there isn't anything this game has touched, and I think the develop team won't touch them.

That true but Japanese military as a hole though all of there campaign all had higher level of war crime and high abuse on there troops as well most of the time Japanese troop where almost always in a worst state of human condish be cause of little or no food or water. Not mestion being miss treat by there superaeres for miner probloms or send some were else in the empire for faliure on a mission. like after midway everyone who survive the carrier battle where send to ether far off outposts or toll to stay in there barrices and toll that midway was there falt or force in to being Kamkize pilots when the empire want them to do

[ahtf]

Not a single country was completly clean in that war, Russia, Japan, German where particulary bad, leaving Dresden and nuclear weapon out of it, but probably shouldn't. This is a game, i think it should not touch the subject.
There is no way a strategy game can give such a subject the amount of information and care that it would demand. Just loosely touching the subject will trivialise it instead.

[GomezAdams]

I wonder how are they going to do a Japanese Campaign story we the general or admiral will have to be a a special person or we are under the emporeor of Japan. Cause there is no way you can have control of naval and ground stuff at the same time cause both the Japanese Army and Naval hate each other or the many many war crimes the Japanese did and still be sympathies for our troops but it will still be fun

You do realize that it is YOU who represent all of that, don't you? It's a point and click game, not an exercise in political debate and imperial hierarchy.

[Retributarr]

I wonder how are they going to do a Japanese Campaign story we the general or admiral will have to be a a special person or we are under the empEreor of Japan. Cause there is no way you can have control of naval and ground stuff at the same time cause both the Japanese Army and Naval hate each other or the many many war crimes the Japanese did and still be sympathies for our troops but it will still be fun

You do realize that it is YOU who represent all of that, don't you? It's a point and click game, not an exercise in political debate an'd imperial hierarchy.

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Overall... I agree with your statement 'GomezAdams'… and perhaps it is just as well that it remain just that way. However... 'Historically'... much or even most of the time the Japanese Army and Japanese Navy were nearly two separate entities-at odds with each other... instead only fixating on their own separate agenda's... and only begrudgingly [ somewhat accepted a reduced role for the betterment of the team]… would then relent to partner with the other entity/faction of the Imperial Japanese forces.

So!... what 'CaptainRope1' is angling for is to include a degree of uncertainty into the various operations in the game... so that you could - or would not always be sure to get the support that you were expecting or hoping to get to try to make your endeavor or task a more assured success... as they themselves had other more important goals to finish or accomplish first... before anything else came onto their plate.
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[PaxusZero]

I wonder how are they going to do a Japanese Campaign story we the general or admiral will have to be a a special person or we are under the empEreor of Japan. Cause there is no way you can have control of naval and ground stuff at the same time cause both the Japanese Army and Naval hate each other or the many many war crimes the Japanese did and still be sympathies for our troops but it will still be fun

You do realize that it is YOU who represent all of that, don't you? It's a point and click game, not an exercise in political debate an'd imperial hierarchy.

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Overall... I agree with your statement 'GomezAdams'… and perhaps it is just as well that it remain just that way. However... 'Historically'... much or even most of the time the Japanese Army and Japanese Navy were nearly two separate entities-at odds with each other... instead only fixating on their own separate agenda's... and only begrudgingly [ somewhat accepted a reduced role for the betterment of the team]… would then relent to partner with the other entity/faction of the Imperial Japanese forces.

So!... what 'CaptainRope1' is angling for is to include a degree of uncertainty into the various operations in the game... so that you could - or would not always be sure to get the support that you were expecting or hoping to get to try to make your endeavor or task a more assured success... as they themselves had other more important goals to finish or accomplish first... before anything else came onto their plate.
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They could use a SCW style of cooperative but not under your command style of troops (probably for the naval units.) It could require using command points to seize a greater amount of control/respect from them and thus better tactics or cooperation.