2009 IWF European Individual Championships, Rome, Italy

peterrjohnston · Post by **peterrjohnston** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:07 pm

sergiomonteleone wrote:all english players can drink a lot so the day after we hope they can loose a lot of plays

But Sergio, you tried this on Jim Gibson* in Faenza and it didn't work... indeed I have a picture of him grabbing the
bottle of wine from your hands in his eagerness to participate in your experiment

Regards,
Peter
* Although Jim is Scots, I hasten to add; Italians tend to use "english" collectively.

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:33 pm

peterrjohnston wrote:But Sergio, you tried this on Jim Gibson* in Faenza and it didn't work... indeed I have a picture of him grabbing the
bottle of wine from your hands in his eagerness to participate in your experiment

Regards,
Peter
* Although Jim is Scots, I hasten to add; Italians tend to use "english" collectively.

If he was English he would also have bought some wine

sergiomonteleone · Post by **sergiomonteleone** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:02 pm

peterrjohnston wrote:
sergiomonteleone wrote:all english players can drink a lot so the day after we hope they can loose a lot of plays
But Sergio, you tried this on Jim Gibson* in Faenza and it didn't work... indeed I have a picture of him grabbing the
bottle of wine from your hands in his eagerness to participate in your experiment

Regards,
Peter
* Although Jim is Scots, I hasten to add; Italians tend to use "english" collectively.

Peter you are right,
but Jin didn't drink a lot of wine (Steve more ............... so I hope to play against him in Rome)

In any case the match with Jim has been very nice and also tactical ........... a lot of Elephants against my CT's.

Even if I have been very unlike in two combats: 1 BG of LF not broke quickly of a flank charge of my CT's and a Jim fragmented BG of CT's didnt' break against my steady Ct'

................... in Rome if we will go to dinner with some english players I will offer them a lot of Italian strong red wine

Sergio

david53 · Post by **david53** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:30 pm

"sergiomonteleone"][/quote]

................... in Rome if we will go to dinner with some english players I will offer them a lot of Italian strong red wine

Sergio[/quote]

Being English I'm sure they'll accept...........

peterrjohnston · Post by **peterrjohnston** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:45 pm

david53 wrote:
sergiomonteleone wrote:
................... in Rome if we will go to dinner with some english players I will offer them a lot of Italian strong red wine

Sergio
Being English I'm sure they'll accept...........

Grappa does seem to scare them though Sergio. Perhaps I should bring that bottle of home-made grappa with me...

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:49 pm

Doesn't scare me. Bring it on. Even if you have moved to Italy, you are still a soft Southern Jessie

In fact the main problem I have is that I WILL drink anything put in front of me. At Dublin I had to make Nik move that flipping Cough Medicine the Finns had put everywhere before I drank all that, which would have ended badly I suspect.

All I ask is that you keep up. I can't promise what state I will be in, but I will keep drinking

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:47 am

Well I'm going to take it easy.

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:47 pm

Take what easy? I am fairly certain you aren't talking about alcohol consumption

WHERE ARE THE RUNNERS AND RIDERS!!!

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:18 pm

A 48 hour delay is added every time you ask

sergiomonteleone · Post by **sergiomonteleone** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:54 pm

peterrjohnston wrote:
david53 wrote:
sergiomonteleone wrote:
................... in Rome if we will go to dinner with some english players I will offer them a lot of Italian strong red wine

Sergio
Being English I'm sure they'll accept...........

Grappa does seem to scare them though Sergio. Perhaps I should bring that bottle of home-made grappa with me...

Peter, Brazilian Grappa could be better, it's stronger than Italian one

peterrjohnston · Post by **peterrjohnston** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:38 pm

List of players, country, army:

Allen, David Michael, Gran Bretagna, Middle Hungarian
Autolino, Angelo, Italia, Later Crusader
Baratto, Fabrizio, Italia, Later Seleucid
Bodo, Listner, Germania, Sassanid Persian
Bueno , Javier, Spagna, War of the Roses English
Cassas, Jean-Yves, Francia, Sassanid Persian
Cullell-Young, Martin, Spagna, War of the Roses English
Fasoulas, John, Grecia, Early North African Dynasties
Garcia, Carlos, Spagna, Early Sucessor
Gomez Scheele, Christian, Spagna, Arab Conquest
Hammond, Stephen, Gran Bretagna, Tatar
Holmes, Brian, Gran Bretagna, Later Lithuanian
Ierman, Walter, Italia, Principate Roman
LeRay-Meyer, Simon, Australia, Ordonnance French
Lidholm, Tomas, Svezia, Later Lithuanian
Linguerri, Nicola, Italia, Later Seleucid
Lo Moro, C. Andrea, Italia, Norse Irish
Marlia, Guglielmo, Italia, Later Hungarian
Monedero, Ivan, Spagna, Condotta Italian
Monteleone, Sergio, Italia, Komnenan Byzantine
Olausson, Fredrik, Svezia, Later Carthaginian
Pasi, Matteo, Italia, Later Ottoman Turkish
Porter, Tim, Gran Bretagna, Dominate Roman
Powell, Phil, Gran Bretagna, Catalan Company
Ricamo, Roberto, Italia, Early Medieval German
Rocchi, Andrea, Italia, Santa Hermandad Nueva Castilian
Ruddock, Dave, Gran Bretagna, Skythian
Ruestes Virtus, David, Spagna, Late Republican Roman
Sanchez, Pedro J., Spagna, Later Ottoman Turkish
Tortosa, Rafa, Spagna, Catalan Company

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:23 pm

Arab Conquest 1
Catalan Company 2
Condotta Italian 1
Dominate Roman 1
Early Medieval German 1
Early North African Dynasties 1
Early Sucessor 1
Komnenan Byzantine 1
Late Republican Roman 1
Later Carthaginian 1
Later Crusader 1
Later Hungarian 1
Later Lithuanian 2
Later Ottoman Turkish 2
Later Seleucid 2
Middle Hungarian 1
Norse Irish 1
Ordonnance French 1
Principate Roman 1
Santa Hermandad Nueva Castilian 1
Sassanid Persian 2
Skythian 1
Tatar 1
War of the Roses English 2

Good mix

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:48 pm

Because I am sad and have nothing better to do, I looked at a copy of the world rankings and where possible plugged in the rankings. The results came out as follows:

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Player                   Army                           Country Ranking (world)
Phil Powell              Catalan Company                GB      8
Dave Ruddock             Skythian                       GB      10
Rafa Tortosa             Catalan Company                Sp      14
Dave Allen               Middle Hungarian               GB      21
Carlos Garcia            Early Successor                Sp      70
Jean-Yves Cassas         Sassanid Persian               Fr      75
Tim Porter               Dominate Roman                 GB      666
Marlia Guglielmo         Later Hungarian                It      124
Walter Ierman            Principate Roman               It      191
Nicola Linguerri         Later Seleucid                 It      207
Ivan Monedero            Italian Condotta               Sp      228
Pedro Sanchez            Later Ottoman Turkish          Sp      241
Sergio Monteleone        Komnenan Byzantine             It      269
Stephen Hammond          Tatar                          GB      284
Angelo Autolino          Later Crusader                 It      291
Javier Bueno             WoTR                           Sp      306
Roberto Ricamo           Early Medieval German          It      307
Brian Holmes             Later Lithuanian               GB      342
Andrea Rocchi            Santa Hooey Doo Dah            It      359
Fredrik Olausson         Later Carthaginian             Sw
Simon LeRay-Meyer        French Ordonnance              Au
Andrea Lo Moro           Norse Irish                    It
Virtus Ruestes           Later Republican Roman         Sp
Tomas Lidholm            Later Lithuanian               Sw
Matteo Pasi              Later Ottoman Turkish          It
Martin Cullell-Young     WoTR                           Sp
Fabrizio Baratto         Later Seleucid                 It
Scheele Gomez            Arab Conquest                  Sp
John Fasoulas            Early North African Dynasties  Gr
Listner Bodo             Sassanid Persian               Ge

This should just about conclusively prove that combined rankings don't work

Whenever I tried to get Tim Porters Ranking it just returned 666. How strange. Only one Dominate Roman - I am presuming it is the 19 BG Monster.

Good spread of armies - six armies picked twice being the most popular vote. Haven't bothered to break it down by book...

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:08 pm

by book, I think,

Immoral Fibre 2
Infernal empire 10
Legirons 4
Rise of Foam 5
S&M 3
Swarm of Errors 6

by country of player

Australia 1
Francia 1
Germania 1
Gran Bretagna 6
Grecia 1
Italia 10
Spagna 8
Svezia 2

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:13 pm

Also there are three Dave's and 2 Andrea. But no Popular surname. So no interbreeding amongst wargamers, or just no breeding.

fredrik · Post by **fredrik** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:17 pm

I'm surprised to see that I'm the only one who appreciated the symmetry of taking the Carthaginians to Rome...

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:33 pm

That probably means you are going to get stopped at customs and not allowed in.

You will then be able to wander around the countryside heading towards the Med sampling all the local hospitality

fredrik · Post by **fredrik** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:26 pm

That's alright I'm only in it for the booze and the groupies anyway.

Kreufeldt · Post by **Kreufeldt** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:39 pm

fredrik wrote:That's alright I'm only in it for the booze and the groupies anyway.

Are there FoG-groupes in Italy? How come we don't have any up here? What are we doing wrong?

fredrik · Post by **fredrik** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:48 pm

Kreufeldt wrote:
fredrik wrote:That's alright I'm only in it for the booze and the groupies anyway.
Are there FoG-groupes in Italy? How come we don't have any up here? What are we doing wrong?

I blame Ogge.