Shifting Qs

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:42 am

deadtorius wrote:perhaps a game designer might want to intervene on this one since it seems entirely dependent on how you interpret the rules as they are written.

See posts from chopped liver above.

SirGarnet · Post by **SirGarnet** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:26 am

So in practical terms "with" means "in the same move as" in that setnence?

BTW, need some chopped liver in the most recent kinky columns thread.

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:41 am

MikeK wrote:So in practical terms "with" means "in the same move as" in that sentence?

Yes

SirGarnet · Post by **SirGarnet** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:30 am

rbodleyscott wrote:Yes

Thanks, I'll jot it down on the page (the hardbound volume has endured wear very well!).

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:18 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:
OMG I am agreeing with Madcam

I thought i felt a disturbance in the time space fields.

petedalby · Post by **petedalby** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:20 pm

I agree with Mr Dalby. Although playing with Hammy I play it Hammy's way as its easier than a discussion most of the time. So we are both cheating each other, and cheaters only cheat themselves. So it cancels out really.

Does this mean that everyone who's been through the Manchester FOG Bootcamp has a similar misunderstanding?

Pete

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:21 pm

I think a bit of confusion could have been fixed by changing the name a simple advance into an ordinary advance. The simple advance and simple move gets people forgetful to look at the clarifying text.

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:55 pm

petedalby wrote:
I agree with Mr Dalby. Although playing with Hammy I play it Hammy's way as its easier than a discussion most of the time. So we are both cheating each other, and cheaters only cheat themselves. So it cancels out really.
Does this mean that everyone who's been through the Manchester FOG Bootcamp has a similar misunderstanding?

It would if we had gone into that level of detail

Most people were happy enough to be able to get the basics of movement and combat.

giobaratto · Post by **giobaratto** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:10 am

rbodleyscott wrote:
hammy wrote:The rules actually say:

Shifts are not permitted when charging, nor in second moves, nor with double wheels, expansions, contractions or turns.
They do indeed. That's what I said

But shifts are permitted with turns during an evasion move, as per example on page 166. That's the only case in which shifts, turns and wheel are permitted. Correct?
giorgio

petedalby · Post by **petedalby** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:25 am

But shifts are permitted with turns during an evasion move, as per example on page 166. That's the only case in which shifts, turns and wheel are permitted. Correct?

Correct

Evade moves are different to voluntary movement.

Pete