Battlefield: Europe MOD v2.4

[McGuba]

Actually now I am adding two nice new unit types to the Allies: the giant Short Sunderland flying boat and the British Mustang Mk.III. If you want to try these I can upload a new beta version tomorrow.

Apart from these no big changes since beta 4, only slight fixes e.g. the fixed German coastal battery at Helgoland can no longer be embarked to a naval tranport, a small but relatively important weather fix, uhhh, dont know what else, maybe some other minor things that I forgot...

[PeteMitchell]

Ah ok, no rush then, please...

I was thinking of maybe playing a full campaign from Poland again... while (for time reasons back then) I haven't finished the one that I had started for version 2.0 though... maybe I will try something else... it would be very nice if some more people give BE multiplayer a try, too

[alexfilip]

Anyone up for a new game/match?!

Will we be doing a Me Axis you Allied game once you're done clobbering me in our first game?

[PeteMitchell]

Anyone up for a new game/match?!

Will we be doing a Me Axis you Allied game once you're done clobbering me in our first game?

Sure, we should do this! We can even start this earlier I guess...

[PeteMitchell]

Please allow me to ask, is there actually any difference between the Fw 190 A-2 and the Fw 190 A-5 (i.e. in terms of stats)?
I understand the value is different but other than that?

By the way, I read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wul ... 0#Fw_190_A

[Radoye]

EDIT:

Whoops, please ignore - wrong topic, i thought i was in the PHCAS / AKRebel one!

[McGuba]

Please allow me to ask, is there actually any difference between the Fw 190 A-2 and the Fw 190 A-5 (i.e. in terms of stats)?
I understand the value is different but other than that?

By the way, I read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wul ... 0#Fw_190_A

As far as I know their real-life performance and armament was very similar so currently there is no difference in the stats between A-2 and A-5 except that A-5 is slightly cheaper due to being produced in larger numbers. The A-5 is a bit cheaper to maintain and also cheaper to buy or upgrade making it a bit more accessible than the earlier versions. It may help to increase the proportion of the Fw-190s relative to the Bf-109 as the war goes on as historically happened. Maybe in the next version I will reduce the price of the A-5 and A-6 a bit more.

[PeteMitchell]

Ah that's interesting, so it was mainly about scale, production and maintenance costs... Thanks!

[Appren]

Is there a chart or something that shows what units can be upgraded to what? (with discount that is) With limited upgrade cities, it would be a pain to transport, say, a pz 35, 38 or whatever from the eastern front, only to find that it cant upgrade naturally to anything.

[McGuba]

In the in-game library of the mod there are several charts showing the in-family unit upgrades of the most important unit classes with availability times and unit branches. In the latest v2.1 (beta) version of the mod I added a small symbol to each unit"s black and white photo image which cannot get an upgrade. There are only a few such ground units though, mainly the captured French and Soviet tanks and the towed heavy artillery. The Pz.35 and Pz.38 can both be upgraded to another tank unit. One Pz.38 and one Pz.II tank unit can even be ugpraded to a Marder anti-tank unit at some point in 1942 if they are moved back to Kiel.

[Appren]

Well doh! Why did I not notice the library button, now I feel dumb! Thanks

edit: And what a great piece of work it is! Awesome!

[PeteMitchell]

I think if the captured Soviet tank survives, it upgrades automatically later.

By the way, for multiplayer, what would be the possibility to create an upgrade chart for the Allied/SU forces?

[McGuba]

Ah, yeah, of course, I forgot that the captured Soviet T-34/41 gets an automatic upgrade to T-34/43 in 1943 if it is still alive, but I meant that it cannot be upgraded to a German tank type.

And for the multiplayer, yes I already did two upgrade charts for the Allied side and it is already included in the currently available latest 2.1 beta version.

[PeteMitchell]

And for the multiplayer, yes I already did two upgrade charts for the Allied side and it is already included in the currently available latest 2.1 beta version.

Oh wow, cool, thanks!... Well, yes I am kind of behind with my downloaded version)

From what I understood from Uhu, there are no discounted upgrades for Allied/SU forces, is this correct or did I misunderstand?

And it also requires these units to be transported to special cities (in/behind the Ural Mountains) I guess?

[McGuba]

Yes, at the moment the Allies do not really have in-family upgrades, there might be a few, I am not sure, but generally they do not have this option and have to pay the full price for each upgrade. But it is not really necessary as it looks like the Allied side have just enough prestige to make the most important upgrades and they constantly get new units anyway. And there are a few Allied units that can get an automatic upgrade.

And yes of course, the same rule applies to the Allied player, he can only upgrade units at the designated cities, but not only in the Ural, there are those in North Africa for the British and he can use Axis upgrade cities as well if he can capture them.

[PeteMitchell]

Just fyi, Pingunator and I initiated a new MP match... played via the Slitherine PBEM server this time, let's see

[Spiffing Brit]

Oo, Could you do an AAR for us to enjoy?

[PeteMitchell]

Oo, Could you do an AAR for us to enjoy?

Yes, we may but we haven't really started yet... alexfilip and I have progressed more already, let's see...

[Uhu]

I'm always dreaming about to make long, deep, interesting AAR's, because they are so enjoyable. The only problem is that such an amount of time and energy would be needed for that. Especially, that I'm not a native English speaker, so everything would need much more energy. Still I have hopes, that some day I will do it.

Oo, Could you do an AAR for us to enjoy?

[McGuba]