Rivers, coasts and lakes

stenic · Post by **stenic** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:43 pm

Has any one really tried these and if so were they effective in supporting your tactics? Or were theye just pretty features on the table?

Of the numerous AAR I've read I can't recall any that make mention of water features. Has the lack of naval bases (err... elements) meant no one is trying them?

I'm wondering if they might be quite useful in taking up terrain picks for a largely HF army with few or no LF & MF.

Steve P

Andy1972 · Post by **Andy1972** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:54 pm

They are useful against the shooty type armies.. Narrowing the battle field so my army can get to them easier.

lawrenceg · Post by **lawrenceg** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:29 pm

Andy1972 wrote:They are useful against the shooty type armies.. Narrowing the battle field so my army can get to them easier.

Against shooty cavalry they are most desirable but you can't place them if you don't have initiative, which, of course, you are not likey to get against a mounted army.

Scrumpy · Post by **Scrumpy** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:00 pm

Trust Mr. Greaves to spot the one flaw in the plan !

madcam2us · Post by **madcam2us** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:03 pm

I have placed a max sized lake during playtesting and it fell in my opponents middle....

Exactly where I wanted it in order to make him choose which side to deploy on.

My hope was both sides in order for me to be able to deal with his army piecemeal...

....He rolled a 6 and removed it.

Madcam.

recharge · Post by **recharge** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:42 pm

Well, a coastline would eliminate a flank march from that side; which would make a "safer" area for the camp.

John

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:08 pm

Rivers also work for heavy foot. Not to close the table down as much as to make sure there is a fairly clear avenue to advance down.

The lakes have been entertaining when they end up in the middle.

domblas · Post by **domblas** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:19 pm

when u don't have sufficient light troops to protect u it is usefull, u can protect ur flank with medium or cavalry as a coast expand 6 MU inside the battle map, it avoid to be threatened flank by side edge proximity.

fredrik · Post by **fredrik** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:27 pm

I find coast and impassable (ie, lake) to be most useful for my LRR - in particular the impassable which I always take, it makes for a beautiful hinge for an army that is always in danger of being outflanked due to its excruciatingly expensive and ridiculously ineffective heavy foot.

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:50 pm

fredrik wrote:ineffective heavy foot.

I thought you had r*m*ns. Very effective I think most people think.