UK Rankings

[grahambriggs]

I also can't work out why you can play 20 games in Scotland and it only counts as 3 competitions. Is it that there's a league that only counts as one, like the flat cap 'n' ferret league?

Yes. The Scottish League includes 4 rounds each of 3 games. The entire League counts as a single minor tournament.

Ooo look. Sevenoaks to Manchester is futher than Edinburgh or Glasgow to manchester. Can we have a Kent league?

I think you're missising the point.

Thanks for clarifying Alan.

I do understand your point, I think. Which is that Scottish based players have quite a travel barrier to get to many English competitions. if they don't travel outside of Scotland they can only get a ranking of 75. So, for example. if the best UK player were based in Scotland and only played Scottish competitions, they would be ranked 14th.

Not sure what could be done to resolve that though; other than have more tournaments in Scotland. It seems sensible to have scottish rankings, since most scottish players only play in Scottish competitions.

I imagine a similar, but more acute, issue impacts players in Wales and Northern Ireland.

[kevinj]

With only 3 tournaments (and all counting as minor) the maximum score would be 60.

[AlanCutner]

Graham/ Kevin - both right. However Northern Ireland comes under the RINIWA not BHGS.

The effects are that the BHGS rankings cannot be used as a guide to compare Scottish players over the year, nor can a Scottish based player realistically expect to get into the top 10 of the BHGS rankings. For example I top, just, the Scottish rankings and do pretty well at Britcon, my only English tournament, (3rd, 1st, 5th over last three years) but still only 13th in the BHGS rankings; clearly even worse for other players.

As for staging more tournaments, well next year we have Schiltron (FoG-AM), Scottish Open (FoG-AM), Square-Go (FoG-R), Scottish League (3xFoG-AM and 2xFoG-R). Thats 11 tournament days and 27 games. And not counting non-FoG tournaments. Not bad for a small group.

dave_r » 26 Nov 2013 20:43
it'll still basically be the same finishing positions of the UK rankings or the Scottish League.

Unfortunately not. I've compared relative positions of Scots based players between the two and there are significant differences.

[titanu]

Alan you forgot the Glasgow and District Open Masturbatics League!

[dave_r]

End of November rankings now complete - these include the following competitions:

- Warfare
- Scottish Open
- Scottish League
- Northern Doubles

So, plenty to keep the Jocks and the Northerners happy then

Full rankings should be available on the BHGS website shortly - top 20 are here as a taster

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1	1	Dave Ruddock	(MAWS)	7	97.86
2	2	Graham Briggs	(Reigate)	5	92.12
3	3	David Handley	(Leeds)	7	90.00
4	5	Graham Evans	(Pinner)	5	86.77
5	4	Robert Taylor	(Halifax)	10	86.19
6	6	Phil Powell	(MAWS)	10	84.45
7	7	Lance Flint	(N.Farnborough)	5	82.91
8	8	Ian Stewart	(Milton Keynes)	4	82.16
9	11	Richard Collins	(Milton Keynes)	4	80.31
10	13	Alan Cutner	(Essex)	4	78.42
11	9	Paul Longmore	(MAWS)	4	78.39
12	10	Bob Amey	(Impalers)	8	78.31
13	14	Richard Jeffrey-Cook	(Society of Ancients)	7	77.55
14	12	David Fairhurst	(Oxford)	8	76.55
15	15	Dino Monticoli	(Cannock)	5	74.44
16	16	Andy Ellis	(Impalers)	8	70.30
17	21	Dave Saunders	(Central London)	9	66.19
18	18	David Bannister	(Wessex)	6	64.64
19	17	Nik Sharp	(Warlords)	5	63.77
20	20	Leslie Mitchell	(MAWS)	4	63.20

[davesaunders23]

17th? YIKES! are you sure...

dave.

[titanu]

17th? YIKES! are you sure...
dave.

Dave you're not a character in the Beano are you!

[dave_r]

December rankings are now on the BHGS website.

I've added the stockport Pic'n'mix this month.

[dave_r]

Latest rankings are now on the bhgs website.

Obviously the ranking software has broken. I'll make sure to implement an "upgrade" prior to the production of the next set.

[petedalby]

I'll make sure to implement an "upgrade" prior to the production of the next set.

Given your lack of attendance at Roll Call it will need to be a significant 'upgrade'!

[zoltan]

As for staging more tournaments, well next year we have Schiltron (FoG-AM), Scottish Open (FoG-AM), Square-Go (FoG-R), Scottish League (3xFoG-AM and 2xFoG-R). Thats 11 tournament days and 27 games. And not counting non-FoG tournaments.

We are looking for a host for next year's annual Worlds event (in Koblenz this year). Maybe Scotland would consider bidding?

[dave_r]

Latest Rankings have been sent to the now-ever-so-efficient BHGS team who will no doubt have the full list available in the very near future.

These include Roll Call. It's all change at the top again! I was surprised that Rob Taylor wasn't at Roll Call as i could only find somebody called Taylor Robert. So I had to create a new person for them.

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Current	Previous	Player
1	2	Pete Dalby
2	1	Graham Evans
3	4	Andy Ellis
4	3	David Handley
5	5	Dave Ruddock
6	6	Robert Taylor
7	7	Graham Briggs
8	8	Lance Flint
9	9	Phil Powell
10	10	Alan Cutner
11	11	Richard Jeffrey-Cook
12	12	Bob Amey
13	13	Paul Longmore
14	16	Dino Monticoli
15	14	David Fairhurst
16	15	Paul Johnston
17	17	David Bannister
18	19	Gordon Jamieson
19	25	Steve Brown
20	27	Dave Morrison

[paulcummins]

oh look im last

[davesaunders23]

wouldn't worry, i am practicing the "yoyo" style of play for the rankings.

oh look im last

[madaxeman]

Latest Rankings have been sent to the now-ever-so-efficient BHGS team who will no doubt have the full list available in the very near future.

These include Roll Call. It's all change at the top again! I was surprised that Rob Taylor wasn't at Roll Call as i could only find somebody called Taylor Robert. So I had to create a new person for them.

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Current	Previous	Player
1	2	Pete Dalby
2	1	Graham Evans
3	4	Andy Ellis
4	3	David Handley
5	5	Dave Ruddock
6	6	Robert Taylor
7	7	Graham Briggs
8	8	Lance Flint
9	9	Phil Powell
10	10	Alan Cutner
11	11	Richard Jeffrey-Cook
12	12	Bob Amey
13	13	Paul Longmore
14	16	Dino Monticoli
15	14	David Fairhurst
16	15	Paul Johnston
17	17	David Bannister
18	19	Gordon Jamieson
19	25	Steve Brown
20	27	Dave Morrison

It was published on the BHGS website last night

[dave_r]

I've just cleaned up the rankings and checked the tournaments and removed the ones that did not occur this year. The full rankings will be published as soon as Tim pops them on the website. Fortunately, I didn't need to carry out much "cleaning" as I was still ahead of Taylor Robert at the first attempt. Of course, these rankings still include Britcon last year, which is the single remaining tournament left until the end of year champion is unveiled! Pete Dalby is favourite, but a good showing by Andy would push him all the way (although I don't know if Andy is going this year?)

The top 20 look like this:

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1   1 Pete Dalby            (Portsmouth)           5 96.08
2   2 Graham Evans          (Pinner)               5 94.19
3   3 Andy Ellis            (Impalers)             8 89.81
4   4 David Handley         (Leeds)                9 88.48
5   5 Dave Ruddock          (MAWS)                 8 87.81
6   6 Robert Taylor         (Halifax)             10 87.76
7   7 Graham Briggs         (Reigate)              6 87.53
8   8 Lance Flint           (N.Farnborough)        7 86.64
9   9 Phil Powell           (MAWS)                 8 83.74
10 10 Alan Cutner           (Essex)                4 81.69
11 11 Richard Jeffrey-Cook  (Society of Ancients)  8 79.70
12 12 Bob Amey              (Impalers)             6 79.12
13 18 Gordon Jamieson       (Central London)      11 74.23
14 16 Paul Johnston         (York)                 4 72.91
15 14 Dino Monticoli        (Cannock)              7 71.02
16 17 David Bannister       (Wessex)               6 70.91
17 15 David Fairhurst       (Oxford)               6 61.47
18 13 Paul Longmore         (MAWS)                 4 60.43
19 19 Steve Brown           (Plymouth)             4 59.66
20 20 Dave Morrison         (Cheltenham)           8 58.58

[dave_r]

Just for interest, I've removed the results for Britcon for last year - this is what the rankings would look like prior to the results for Britcon being entered:

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Pete Dalby	(Portsmouth)	4	84.91
Graham Briggs	(Reigate)	5	82.96
Robert Taylor	(Halifax)	9	80.01
Graham Evans	(Pinner)	4	79.49
Richard Jeffrey-Cook	(Society of Ancients)	7	78.79
Lance Flint	(N.Farnborough)	6	78.30
Andy Ellis	(Impalers)	7	78.10
David Handley	(Leeds)	8	75.66
Dave Ruddock	(MAWS)	7	74.77
Paul Johnston	(York)	4	72.91
Phil Powell	(MAWS)	7	71.18
David Bannister	(Wessex)	6	70.91
Dino Monticoli	(Cannock)	6	69.93
Bob Amey	(Impalers)	5	68.99
Gordon Jamieson	(Central London)	10	58.81
Dave Morrison	(Cheltenham)	8	58.58
Dave Saunders	(Central London)	8	57.80
Nik Sharp	(Warlords)	6	56.18
Alan Cutner	(Essex)	3	55.94
Hunter Hope	(Perth)	4	53.82

This doesn't necessarily give a true indication as this is the players best four tournaments with only Britcon to go - but it gives an idea of where players are without last years Britcon results to prop up their ranking

[Robert241167]

0.05 between us Dave, Britcon should be interesting.

Andy is in the Medieval period with me.

Rob

[dave_r]

0.05 between us Dave, Britcon should be interesting.

Andy is in the Medieval period with me.

Rob

Yeah, the problem is that I won last year and you were fourth (out of twenty nine). So I'm not exactly going to finish better than first and it is possible (although frankly, unlikely) that you may submarine your way to a podium place by picking the easy period this year.

[AlanCutner]

Dave can you please please please change my club designation from Essex to GDWS. I still get some adverse comments about it!

As for the rankings without Britcon - very interesting. But ofcourse that leaves me with just 3 minor comps for my ranking. So I have everything to gain.