Bolstering

Bugle999 · Post by **Bugle999** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:12 pm

1. Can a General 'move and then Bolster' in the JAP phase.
2. Can a General 'Bolster and then move' in the JAP phase.
3. If he can 'move and then bolster' can he do the following:
a) He is fighting in the front rank with a BG that breaks as well as also autobroken (less than 50%), he makes the initial rout with the BG at the end of the melee phase. At the start of the JAP phase (I believe) he is free to move away to any unit within 7 MU's. If this unit is Disorganised (not this turn) can he then Bolster the new unit?
b) Is there anything preventing the General from moving away after the initial rout - even if the pursuers stay in contact?

MTIA

gavin · Post by **gavin** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:17 pm

Not got my book handy, but I'm sure officer movement is before Bolstering so don't see why he can't move then bolster.

not sure about a or b though

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:42 pm

In the JAP movement of commanders is before bolstering.

To question 3a - yes, I believe that is OK.

To 3b - I think he can move away in the JAP.

terrys · Post by **terrys** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:14 pm

1) Yes
2) No
3a) Yes
3b) No

willb · Post by **willb** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:25 am

terrys wrote:1) Yes
2) No
3a) Yes
3b) No

with regards to 3b - is that no, there is nothing to prevent him leaving, or is it no, he may not leave the routing unit.

mannmarke · Post by **mannmarke** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:19 am

He may leave the unit.

Mark

WhiteKnight · Post by **WhiteKnight** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:16 am

I think that in the JAP the general can leave the routing BG even if the pursuers are still in contact.

Will he first have to have tested in the JAP for being for (not) being killed in the pursuit before he leaves? No rules with me so not sure.

Martin

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:30 am

WhiteKnight wrote:I think that in the JAP the general can leave the routing BG even if the pursuers are still in contact.

Will he first have to have tested in the JAP for being for (not) being killed in the pursuit before he leaves? No rules with me so not sure.

Martin

That is correct

daveallen · Post by **daveallen** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:32 am

Will he first have to have tested in the JAP for being for (not) being killed in the pursuit before he leaves? No rules with me so not sure

In the JAP commanders move before rout moves so don't test for being lost (unless they stay with the routers of course). See the Full Turn Sequence on page 168.

Dave

terrys · Post by **terrys** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:21 am

with regards to 3b - is that no, there is nothing to prevent him leaving, or is it no, he may not leave the routing unit.

I was answering the question asked - No, there is nothing to prevent him leaving.

In the JAP commanders move before rout moves so don't test for being lost (unless they stay with the routers of course). See the Full Turn Sequence on page 168.

The roll for killing a general is made at the end of any pursuit move.
This means that you always get one roll of a 10+ to kill a general with a routing general, but only get a second one if he's mad enough to stay with them.
NB charging an already routing BG doesn't give you this roll (or auto-remove a base), you only get it if you are still in contact after you 'pursue'

terrys · Post by **terrys** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:27 am

with regards to 3b - is that no, there is nothing to prevent him leaving, or is it no, he may not leave the routing unit.

I was strictly answering the question, so - no, there is nothing to prevent him leaving

In the JAP commanders move before rout moves so don't test for being lost (unless they stay with the routers of course). See the Full Turn Sequence on page 168.

The base removal and the roll to injure the general is made at the end of any 'pursuit move' if the BGs are still in contact. So you always get at least one chance to kill him on a 10+, but he will normally move away before the second pursuit move is made.