Hitting a new enemy while pursuing

[Eques]

I seem to remember if this happens you fight them next turn Is that right? If so would that be as impact or melee?

[zoltan]

Yes you fight the new enemy next turn in the impact phase.

[bbotus]

Yes you fight the new enemy next turn in the impact phase.

V2 reference is page 116-117.

Also, if the new enemy is fragmented, they take an immediate cohesion test; if required.

[zoltan]

Yes you fight the new enemy next turn in the impact phase.

V2 reference is page 116-117.

Also, if the new enemy is fragmented, they take an immediate cohesion test; if required.

What's an example of a fragmented bg not being required to take an immediate cohesion test when hit by a pursuing enemy?

[bbotus]

Yes you fight the new enemy next turn in the impact phase.

V2 reference is page 116-117.

Also, if the new enemy is fragmented, they take an immediate cohesion test; if required.

What's an example of a fragmented bg not being required to take an immediate cohesion test when hit by a pursuing enemy?

If light foot are pursuing and they choose not to halt 1 MU from the fragmented BG (page 116), no CT would be required.

[zoltan]

If light foot are pursuing and they choose not to halt 1 MU from the fragmented BG (page 116), no CT would be required.

LF can not charge unbroken non skirmishers in open terrain so I guess you are thinking about LF pursuing into fragmented non skirmishers in rough/difficult terrain?

[Eques]

Thanks Zoltan for all the replies.

[bbotus]

If light foot are pursuing and they choose not to halt 1 MU from the fragmented BG (page 116), no CT would be required.

LF can not charge unbroken non skirmishers in open terrain so I guess you are thinking about LF pursuing into fragmented non skirmishers in rough/difficult terrain?

Correct on both counts. In addition pursuits are a little different than declared charges. Pursuits are a required move. Page 116 says that LF can always choose to halt their pursuit. It doesn't say they have to. And it goes on the say fragmented contacted by pursuers must take an immediate CT unless the pursuers are LF. It says nothing about LF pursuers being required to stop if in open terrain.

[dave_r]

If light foot are pursuing and they choose not to halt 1 MU from the fragmented BG (page 116), no CT would be required.

LF can not charge unbroken non skirmishers in open terrain so I guess you are thinking about LF pursuing into fragmented non skirmishers in rough/difficult terrain?

Correct on both counts. In addition pursuits are a little different than declared charges. Pursuits are a required move. Page 116 says that LF can always choose to halt their pursuit. It doesn't say they have to. And it goes on the say fragmented contacted by pursuers must take an immediate CT unless the pursuers are LF. It says nothing about LF pursuers being required to stop if in open terrain.

Pursuits aren't a required move all the time - it is not compulsory to pursue in certain circumstances and in some circumstances you need to take a test to pursue.

[bbotus]

The words on page 107 are: "An unbroken BG,..., always pursues ... unless: ..." Granted it does give a few exceptions. But, if a LF BG, doesn't meet one of those exceptions, then it must pursue even if you don't want it to. Sounds compulsory to me.

[ravenflight]

I seem to remember if this happens you fight them next turn Is that right? If so would that be as impact or melee?

Not necessarily true. Unless changed from V1 (please confirm all you v2 types) a pursuit that happens in the impact phase gets fought straight away. Less likely to happen, but has happened to me several times.

[petedalby]

Not neccessarily true. Unless changed from V1 (please confirm all you v2 types) a pursuit that happens in the impact phase gets fougt straight away. Less likely to happen, but has happened to me several times.

Correct. So you can have 2 or more rounds of impact with the same BG - worked for me a few times this weekend.

[bbotus]

Not neccessarily true. Unless changed from V1 (please confirm all you v2 types) a pursuit that happens in the impact phase gets fougt straight away. Less likely to happen, but has happened to me several times.

Correct. So you can have 2 or more rounds of impact with the same BG - worked for me a few times this weekend.

Agree. V2 specifically states this in the last bullet on page 116.

[philqw78]

The words on page 107 are: "An unbroken BG,..., always pursues ... unless: ..." Granted it does give a few exceptions. But, if a LF BG, doesn't meet one of those exceptions, then it must pursue even if you don't want it to. Sounds compulsory to me.

But any BG can always test so as not to contact new enemy

[bbotus]

The words on page 107 are: "An unbroken BG,..., always pursues ... unless: ..." Granted it does give a few exceptions. But, if a LF BG, doesn't meet one of those exceptions, then it must pursue even if you don't want it to. Sounds compulsory to me.

But any BG can always test so as not to contact new enemy

Yes, they do have that option.