GJS'44 Campaign Main Thread - Final June 16th 1944 Tournamen

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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by cavehobbit »

GottaLove88s wrote: VOTE: Carpiquet airfield has a bonus impact for the Germans (if the Germans lose Carpiquet, they lose their Fw190s). I want to add an extra sweetener for the Allies, so that if the Allies take Carpiquet their Typhoon ground attack aircraft recycle time will be reduced from 3 turns (normal) to 2 (with Carpiquet). The Allies will lose this bonus if they lose Carpiquet, but if they hold it, they have it. YES or NO?
Yes. If they would take Carpiquet there will be rain anyway :)
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by GottaLove88s »

Thanks P-A, Well, let's see... He's got a lot of armour coming your way, lol...

Btw, since many of the GJS'44 guys are already playing Carpiquet (in the Normandy Ninjas tourney) it would be fair for you to familiarise yourself with it too, if you wished to? I'm not guaranteeing that it won't change (right now, it's proving impossible to crack, but I have some evil tactics that I'm working on) but, in general, Carpiquet will look a lot like it does in Ninjas...
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Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by joncorcuera »

Obviusly about the carpiquet matter we are no objetctives since it bennefits the allies, so it Will be masivo vote from the allies in to go for it i can guess.
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

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GottaLove88s wrote:Thanks P-A, Well, let's see... He's got a lot of armour coming your way, lol...

Btw, since many of the GJS'44 guys are already playing Carpiquet (in the Normandy Ninjas tourney) it would be fair for you to familiarise yourself with it too, if you wished to? I'm not guaranteeing that it won't change (right now, it's proving impossible to crack, but I have some evil tactics that I'm working on) but, in general, Carpiquet will look a lot like it does in Ninjas...
Honour79/Alexis and I have just started the tourney game. Sadly I don't have time to participate in the tourney.
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by GottaLove88s »

cavehobbit wrote:Honour79/Alexis and I have just started the tourney game. Sadly I don't have time to participate in the tourney.
Have fun both. If you figure out any new ways to crack Carpiquet as Allies, please PM me! :mrgreen:

Sensible of you not to join the Tourney. The sheer number of units in Carpiquet (64 for Allies vs 48 for Germans) is making turns as insane as Ortona (at least at the beginning; they die quite fast)... but the balance of lots of infantry with not so many tanks feels realistic...

Meanwhile, clash of the titans, Mlazar v Hidde seems to be gaining momentum... I feel a PM battle coming on in the not too distant future?
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Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by morge4 »

GottaLove88s wrote:PLAYER VOTE: READ BELOW

Gents,

Some of us are playing the Carpiquet airfield map in the Normandy Ninjas tourney... The map itself is challenging, at least it is from the direction that the Allies come at it for the tourney (but you guys are all experts at picking the best approach routes to target sectors by now, right? ;-)).

However, other than the problems posed by the map/approach, an important issue is that Tigers and Panthers working as a team completely outclass the Allied tanks, despite giving the Allies significant numerical superiority (24 Allied tanks to 8 Germans in the tourney game).

To keep GJS'44 fun as we get into the arrival of MUCH stronger German heavy tanks... here's a proposal, which I'd like all players/commanders to vote on...

VOTE: Carpiquet airfield has a bonus impact for the Germans (if the Germans lose Carpiquet, they lose their Fw190s). I want to add an extra sweetener for the Allies, so that if the Allies take Carpiquet their Typhoon ground attack aircraft recycle time will be reduced from 3 turns (normal) to 2 (with Carpiquet). The Allies will lose this bonus if they lose Carpiquet, but if they hold it, they have it. YES or NO?

In reality, this would increase the maximum number of Typhoon strikes per 20 turn battle, from 5 strikes (3 turn wait, plus 1 turn assignment, divided into 20) to 6 (2 turn wait, plus 1 turn assignment), but over the course of the campaign these extra strikes should be worth having. Sometimes they get shot down. Sometimes they do nothing except miss and reveal recon. Sometimes, as in a current game with Arcticpost, he can bag a Tiger and a Panther at the same time, because I was foolish enough to park them back to back...

Votes and thoughts please gentlemen?
I'm inclined to say since they have to fly further inland they should be extended to a 4 turn wait. :twisted:

But seriously...as a German I'm not in favor for it. As a Allied, I can see the value in the extra flight.

Ok, so I vote yes, provisionally. I would like to see the Germans have an extra AA added for a minimum of 2 and a maximum of 3 :idea:
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by GottaLove88s »

Haha, good answers Al! Thanks for your comments. Fair and thoughtful.

But you must be the only Allied player (so far) who's cruising to an easy victory on Carpiquet versus a mere 8 heavy panzers then...? :mrgreen:
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Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by hidde »

Meanwhile, clash of the titans, Mlazar v Hidde seems to be gaining momentum...
Jeebuz, what have P-A told you 'bout me? :shock:
Just because I've never lost a FOG battle against him(I think) it doesn't mean I'm some kind of BA wizard :P
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by GottaLove88s »

PS. Not that I'm giving advice or anything, but ways to lighten the impact of Typhoons (or Fw190s)

(i) Keep 88s and Wirbelwinds/M16AAs close to important clusters of ground troops
(ii) Despite above, DON'T CLUSTER ground troops. Leave at least 2 empty spaces between anything, whenever you suspect an airstrike is coming
(iii) Keep infantry/support kit under cover, bunkers (68-80%), trees (55%), mud or rough ground (48%)
(iv) Fortifications offer extra protection against bombardments

Usually air strikes suppress, rather than kill... However, Al, you do seem to have a few "special pilots" who do rather better whenever I fight you...
:roll:
SCENARIO LINKS
Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by Honour79 »

I vote YES! Because the fall of the allies will be much greater! :twisted:
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

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hidde wrote:
Meanwhile, clash of the titans, Mlazar v Hidde seems to be gaining momentum...
Jeebuz, what have P-A told you 'bout me? :shock:
Just because I've never lost a FOG battle against him(I think) it doesn't mean I'm some kind of BA wizard :P
All I've told is the truth :D And yes, you win every FoG game we play...
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by jcb989 »

I abstain


just kidding. I vote yes
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by GottaLove88s »

Thanks guys, Airstrike recharge delay will be reduced to 2 (if Allies can take and hold Carpiquet of course)

Passed unanimously, albeit with one provisional (Al! ;-))
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Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by GottaLove88s »

Any news from the Abbaye replay?
What does the PM battle look like?
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Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by hidde »

GottaLove88s wrote:Any news from the Abbaye replay?
What does the PM battle look like?
A bit slow at the moment. I'm working this weekend. 5-6 turns left.
I won't be able to achive much I think.
I've lost a transport and mlazar has lost one VG.
It bugs me that both his mortars seems to survive. Almost killed one and pretty sure I hurt the other one as well...
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by Honour79 »

Who seem to win the map?
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by hidde »

Mlazar, no doubt.
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by GottaLove88s »

Gents, if you're nearly drawing to a close on Abbaye morning battle, German player please remember to post...

(i) Screenshot of KIAs... we'll add the M5, M10 and VG
(ii) Report of who holds which flags (these will be the starting ownership for the afternoon battle)

Allied player must confirm, and then I'll update our OOB...
SCENARIO LINKS
Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Abbaye d'Ardenne replay

Post by GottaLove88s »

NEW VOTE: Improved Engineers - Yes or No?

Gentlemen,

Those of you who joined our Normandy Ninjas GJS'44 Tourney will realise that the Allies, ahem, hit a brick wall in Carpiquet (sorry, awful pun, I admit :roll: )

So, guru mod-developer, Amaris* & I, have been experimenting with adding new functionality to create "Improved Engineers" genuinely worthy of the name...

After hitting some technical issues with the way that BA handles MP, I believe that Amaris has finally cracked it...
So we can now deliver to you, Brit and German engineers with the following abilities...

(i) Cut down trees (cuts 'em to a sort of marshy vegetation, which is still impenetrable to vehicles) - 1 turn :)
(ii) Clear marsh (which combined with i above, enables a 2-turn removal of trees that vehicles can pass thru) - 1 turn :)
(iii) Build tank trap - 1 turn :D
(iv) Demolish tank trap - 1 turn :D
(v) Blow up hedgerow/walls - 1 turn :mrgreen:

Your engineer needs 16 AP points (ie. has to be full health, before moving) to execute any of these actions

The question is... would you like to include these Improved Engineers in GJS'44?

As things stand in our OOB, the Allies have (or will receive) 70 engineers, the Germans 44... If everyone agrees to the mod, I'll balance that a little, by swapping 12 German infantry to engineers... to keep a 5-to-4 engineer advantage for the Allies, who are the attackers after all...

Please vote asap. Thanks!
GL88

*the creative genius behind the gorgeous Ortona map! and the inventor of the Naval Academy...
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SCENARIO LINKS
Seelow'45 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=55132
Normandy'44 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42094
Dieppe'42 -> www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=42347
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Re: GJS'44 - D-Day - Improved Engineers are coming

Post by Mkboy1313 »

I want to try those new features so bad my yes is automatic. Very cool.
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