Indeed...on p. 100 of the v1 rules, under "Initial Rout", "if its path is obstructed by unbroken enemy that cannot be bypassed, the BG is destroyed at the end of the phase."kevinj wrote:No, you're confusing that with routers. P67 covers a number of situations where evaders cannot complete their moves and is clear that they move as far as they can and "are likely to be caught". In this example they would be caught 5 times out of 6...Isn't there something in the rules about troops who are unable to complete an evade move being destroyed? This could have applied. If I could have remembered it.
Evading when you can't go anywhere
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Re: Evading when you can't go anywhere
Its very frustratingshadowdragon wrote:I have the v1 rules in front of me and they read, "BG that cannot complete an evade move by any of the above means move as far as they can, and are likely to be caught." V2 reads exactly the same. I understand how irritating this might be - especially when playing against Dave R, but I'd rather keep the uncertainty. Otherwise we'll get into situations where people park their LF 1 MU plus 1 mm from enemy so that they can move that "1 mm" and claim to be "evading". I like a game where as much as possible the importance of micro-measurement is minimized since to me micro-measurement isn't very realistic.
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Maybe Slitherine can introduce "virtual" sympathy presents for the forum.philqw78 wrote:Its very frustratingshadowdragon wrote:I have the v1 rules in front of me and they read, "BG that cannot complete an evade move by any of the above means move as far as they can, and are likely to be caught." V2 reads exactly the same. I understand how irritating this might be - especially when playing against Dave R, but I'd rather keep the uncertainty. Otherwise we'll get into situations where people park their LF 1 MU plus 1 mm from enemy so that they can move that "1 mm" and claim to be "evading". I like a game where as much as possible the importance of micro-measurement is minimized since to me micro-measurement isn't very realistic.
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It made the difference between a 19-6 and an 18-7philqw78 wrote:Its very frustratingshadowdragon wrote:I have the v1 rules in front of me and they read, "BG that cannot complete an evade move by any of the above means move as far as they can, and are likely to be caught." V2 reads exactly the same. I understand how irritating this might be - especially when playing against Dave R, but I'd rather keep the uncertainty. Otherwise we'll get into situations where people park their LF 1 MU plus 1 mm from enemy so that they can move that "1 mm" and claim to be "evading". I like a game where as much as possible the importance of micro-measurement is minimized since to me micro-measurement isn't very realistic.
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By the way, Dave, - just to head off the potential evasive discussion about right and wrong - don't make the mistake of thinking that because I agree with you on this that I think you're right. That would be going "a bridge too far".dave_r wrote:It made the difference between a 19-6 and an 18-7philqw78 wrote:Its very frustratingshadowdragon wrote:I have the v1 rules in front of me and they read, "BG that cannot complete an evade move by any of the above means move as far as they can, and are likely to be caught." V2 reads exactly the same. I understand how irritating this might be - especially when playing against Dave R, but I'd rather keep the uncertainty. Otherwise we'll get into situations where people park their LF 1 MU plus 1 mm from enemy so that they can move that "1 mm" and claim to be "evading". I like a game where as much as possible the importance of micro-measurement is minimized since to me micro-measurement isn't very realistic.
Re: Evading when you can't go anywhere
Right, so what you are saying is that despite agreeing with me, you don't think I'm right?shadowdragon wrote:By the way, Dave, - just to head off the potential evasive discussion about right and wrong - don't make the mistake of thinking that because I agree with you on this that I think you're right. That would be going "a bridge too far".
Or do you mean that you agree with me and I'm wrong?
Either way, you don't make sense!
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Precisely wrong, Dave.dave_r wrote:Right, so what you are saying is that despite agreeing with me, you don't think I'm right?shadowdragon wrote:By the way, Dave, - just to head off the potential evasive discussion about right and wrong - don't make the mistake of thinking that because I agree with you on this that I think you're right. That would be going "a bridge too far".
Or do you mean that you agree with me and I'm wrong?
Either way, you don't make sense!
Just think of it as one of those mysteries of the universe - like the dual wave-particle nature of matter-energy.
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Or different sizes of infinity
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Re: Evading when you can't go anywhere
Probably best just to say that Phil is more wrong that you are. In this one instance.dave_r wrote:Right, so what you are saying is that despite agreeing with me, you don't think I'm right?shadowdragon wrote:By the way, Dave, - just to head off the potential evasive discussion about right and wrong - don't make the mistake of thinking that because I agree with you on this that I think you're right. That would be going "a bridge too far".
Or do you mean that you agree with me and I'm wrong?
Either way, you don't make sense!
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I wasn't wrong in any way. I said that was the rules, but it was frustrating.grahambriggs wrote:Probably best just to say that Phil is more wrong that you are. In this one instance.
Being on the opposite side to Dave is always right.
But then Alan joined sides with me, which must be wrong, so now I don't know whats wrong or right.
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You assume theres only two sides.But then Alan joined sides with me, which must be wrong, so now I don't know whats wrong or right.
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In my world there's only right or wrong, black or white.
You're getting into shades of grey now Alan. That's not only wrong but also deviant
You're getting into shades of grey now Alan. That's not only wrong but also deviant
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Re: Evading when you can't go anywhere
philqw78 wrote: I said that was the rules, but it was frustrating.
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bored at work
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