Plaid vs Morris - restarted

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Post by supermax »

Sorry
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Post by Blathergut »

ummmm... 8)
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Post by Plaid »

Fair weather started, so we launch our offencive. Destroyed only 3 corps so far, and captured Minsk. Decided to stay safe because forces screen shows 15 soviet mech and 10 armour and I have no idea, where they can be. Don't want surprise counterattack.

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Southern wing of the eastern front - some mech and guardsmen approach, but will they actually attack? Soviets have low readiness and our line supposed to hold in any case.

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Western landing is here. Can't say it is very impressive. All USA transports supposed to be armour, UK ones - mech mostly, some corps.
Blue cross mark areas where allies can land. By the way I am surprised how many damage low tech allied ASW inflicted to my subs last turn.

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Post by Plaid »

Strange things are going on.

Allies landed near Brest and will capture the fortress next turn very likely. I didn't go for counterattack, instead we form defencive line and plan to hold allies on this small patch of ground. Counterattack canceled mostly because luftwaffe is now very busy in USSR. Also there are lots of high tech UK fighters (I have only 4 of my own) and air casualties will be heavy, if I use air here. Instead I keep fighters in USSR and score 4:1 rolls vs soviet fighters.

Our subs keep methodically sinking allied warships.

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Here is our offencive in Belorussia. Forgotten to take screen after turn, but basically we destroyed some infantry here and keep advancing.

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In the south Morris go for his own offencive (not very effective because of poor troop readiness and air support).

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We strike back and restore the frontline, destroying soviet HQ tank and infantry.
Italian tanks were quite effective anti-tank weapon - I got 4:2 roll vs USA armour and 5:1 vs soviet one.

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Post by Crazygunner1 »

With the italian tanks did you focus on antitank?

Does that mean they only use a small amount of oil since it is usually armour that make tanks spend more oil?

If that is the case it is pretty smart thinking, if it works....

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Post by Plaid »

Focused on anti-tank since very start. They use little oil indeed, though I have still 700+.
With italian manpower you can't afford go for infantry only, you need either air or navy or tanks to utilise PPs without buring all MP.
So I decided to go with tanks.
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Post by Plaid »

Its going on. In the west allied landing seems localized - allies are bottlenecked near Brest.
Kesselring arrived this turn from reserve to help maintain proper defences.

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2 more RN naval units finished off, though we lost 1 german sub flotilla.

Offencive in Belorussia stopped, as soviets retreat from Minsk region. Advance further to Gomel will most likely lead to our troops being flanked and destroyed.

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Good part is that many tank, mech and air units are now free, as soviets have no offencive capacity in the area.

On the south soviets keep attacking, but we manage to hold the line, with destruction of 2 more soviet mech units. Traditionally high soviet air casualties.

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Finland goes neutral, so now we have only 126 income instead of 132. Still 700+ oil, so free move for any units.

Got 6th level sub tech this turn, sold both naval labs and purchased 2 fighters.
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Post by Plaid »

In the west Morris somehow destroyed our SS mech and advanced 1 more step, but we hold ground for now. Another DD sunk by our navy and CV quite damaged.

Allied tech level is impressive - american and soviet tanks and mechs are better then german for 1-2 levels in every tech, western allied air units are also high tech.

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Soviets try to be offencive in the south, exposing their armour again. If some evil person will teach Morris proper tactics without advancing tanks in dangerous hexes and suffering so huge air casualties (actually he lost fighter during HIS turn, as I got from casualties screen) he will be truly undefeatable.

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Our defence is quite effective - we destroyed 2 tanks, badly damaged 3rd one and burned dozen of air steps.

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Post by zechi »

That the Allies managed to capture Brest will really hurt, as it will now be really difficult to drive them from France.
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Post by Kragdob »

zechi wrote:That the Allies managed to capture Brest will really hurt, as it will now be really difficult to drive them from France.
Yes, Allied invasion looks critical for the fate of the war right now.
Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.
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Post by peterjfrigate »

Maybe Guderian will be heading West :)
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Post by Plaid »

Soviet offencive continues near Lvov, this time with no air support. Still they had no problems with killing our units and careless advance with best troops.

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With use of our bombers (should find somewhere PPs and build more...3 is not enough. But I really can't spare 110 PP with 126 income) we destroyed 2 soviet tanks and 1 guard mech and 1 corps at this area. Now some of our best units are standing in frontline and if Morris *somehow* wipe out all of them we will have little power to strike back.

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Northern area, where we advance into void and destroy 2 more soviet corps

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West, now axis are on defence, but I fear it will be not very effective with so many allied bombers. Still can't afford counterattack because of extreme high western troops tech level. My mechs are not enough strong to defeat western units decicevely and tanks will be destroyed by TAC bombers instantly, if I deploy them here.

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Post by Schnurri »

How are the Allies beating the Axis out in Tech in all these games? Sometimes when you are losing you cash in your tech and then they should surpass you but at this stage of the game the Axis should be ahead in Tech if you have invested wisely?
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Post by Kragdob »

Schnurri wrote:How are the Allies beating the Axis out in Tech in all these games? Sometimes when you are losing you cash in your tech and then they should surpass you but at this stage of the game the Axis should be ahead in Tech if you have invested wisely?
Allies (USSR an USA)have tech advantage in INF and ARM at the beginning of the game so even if Germans focus there as well they are even at best.
Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.
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Post by Plaid »

We captured Gomel with little soviet resistance. Soon we will be in Kiev probably.

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Here we lost a tank during allied turn (actually how they do it with no air support? Casualties should be higher I believe) but destroyed at least 3 soviet armour and another guard mech. Now all what I can see is 1 armour unit.

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In the west we lost infantry during allied turn and destroyed UK and USA mechs, aswell as another DD.

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If this position will hold until bad weather probably allies will not breakthrough.
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Post by PionUrpo »

Kragdob wrote:
Schnurri wrote:How are the Allies beating the Axis out in Tech in all these games? Sometimes when you are losing you cash in your tech and then they should surpass you but at this stage of the game the Axis should be ahead in Tech if you have invested wisely?
Allies (USSR an USA)have tech advantage in INF and ARM at the beginning of the game so even if Germans focus there as well they are even at best.
Putting the early labs on infantry/armor instead of general/navy/air seems to be the case here as well.

Plaid can you give us a rundown of what RN and USN tech levels look like?
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