Announcement - Derby Teams 2011 FOG

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:10 pm

david53 wrote:
Robert241167 wrote:Yes indeed.

She was supposed to distract the opposition but obviously to distract Mr Ruddock I should have brought a ladyboy !!

Rob
You do know now, the Lords of the Dice will draw you against Mr R in the first round....

I think Rob is referring to Mr Jeffrey-Cook. After all he's got no chance against me

Although it would be good fun to see Halifax going down like cheap t***ts again.

david53 · Post by **david53** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:31 pm

dave_r wrote:
david53 wrote:
Robert241167 wrote:Yes indeed.

She was supposed to distract the opposition but obviously to distract Mr Ruddock I should have brought a ladyboy !!

Rob
You do know now, the Lords of the Dice will draw you against Mr R in the first round....
I think Rob is referring to Mr Jeffrey-Cook. After all he's got no chance against me

Although it would be good fun to see Halifax going down like cheap t***ts again.

I'd like it to be Known that Halifax B(including me) did manage to get higher than Halifax A (rob)last year

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:46 pm

dave_r wrote:So who do we think is going to win then?

I think a top three (in no order) of

MAWS
Hogs
Pinner

Is favourite

Halifax A for the wooden spoon

Nice to see that our team captain has faith - the team bunny and I are a lot less confident ...

titanu · Post by **titanu** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:59 pm

nikgaukroger wrote:
dave_r wrote:I think a top three (in no order) of
MAWS
Hogs
Pinner

And Halifax A for the wooden spoon
Nice to see that our team captain has faith - the team bunny and I are a lot less confident ...

The team bunny came 16th out of 18 in the Northern League and was stuffed by a Halifax A team!

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:27 pm

For those of you with an IT bent here's the R&R in CSV format

Copy paste into notepad. Save as Name.csv then open with excel or OO calc so you can filter for pools, popular armies, order, etc.

"Name"," Team"," Pool"," Army"," "
"Dave Morrison"," Alumwell"," Pool 1"," Alexandrian Macedonian"," "
"Dino Monticoli"," Alumwell"," Pool 2"," Maurikian Byzantine",
"Ade Ball"," Alumwell"," Pool 3"," Fanatic Berber"," "
"Simon Clarke"," Burton"," Pool 1"," Ptolemaic"," "
"Peter Gregory"," Burton"," Pool 2"," Early Bulgar"," "
"Paul Freeman"," Burton"," Pool 3"," Anglo-Danish"," "
"David Redhead"," CR&P"," Pool 1"," Late Republican Roman",
"Peter Card"," CR&P"," Pool 2"," Thematic Byzantine"," "
"Tony Parkin"," CR&P"," Pool 3"," Italo-Norman",
"Clive Holland"," Derby"," Pool 1"," Parthian"," "
"Marc Lunn"," Derby"," Pool 2"," Khurasanian"," "
"Nigel Philips"," Derby"," Pool 3"," Feudal Catalan",
"Eric Lajus"," France"," Pool 1"," Later Seleucid"," "
"Frédéric Dufour"," France"," Pool 2"," Umayyad Arab"," "
"Herve Ramonet"," France"," Pool 3"," Norman"," "
"Robert Taylor"," Halifax A"," Pool 1"," Late Republican Roman",
"Paul Brandon"," Halifax A"," Pool 2"," Christian Nubian"," "
"Roger Greenwood"," Halifax A"," Pool 3"," Papal Italian",
"Richard Jeffrey-Cook"," Hampshire Hogs"," Pool 1"," Parthian",
"Peter Dalby"," Hampshire Hogs"," Pool 2"," Sassanid Persian"," "
"Lance Flint"," Hampshire Hogs"," Pool 3"," Taifa Andalusian"," "
"Andy Ellis"," Impalers"," Pool 1"," Graeco-Bactrian",
"Graham Wilmott"," Impalers"," Pool 2"," Bedouin Dynasties"," "
"Bob Amey","Impalers"," Pool 3"," Feudal French",
"Graham Roberts"," Little Bo Peeps' Mates"," Pool 1"," Graeco-Bactrian"," "
"Kevin Ellis"," Little Bo Peeps' Mates"," Pool 2"," Early Alan"," "
"Leslie Mitchell"," Little Bo Peeps' Mates"," Pool 3"," Imperial German"," "
"Dave Ruddock"," MAWS A"," Pool 1"," Parthian",
"James Hamilton"," MAWS A"," Pool 2"," Dailami"," "
"Nik Gaukroger"," MAWS A"," Pool 3"," Andalusian"," "
"Matthew Poole"," MAWS B"," Pool 1"," Parthian"," "
"Stephen Clark"," MAWS B"," Pool 2"," Sassanid Persian",
"Peter Butler"," MAWS B"," Pool 3"," Feudal Castillian"," "
"Lynnette Maxim"," Mercenaries"," Pool 1"," Later Republian Roman"," "
"Adrian Steer"," Mercenaries"," Pool 2"," Sassanid Persian"," "
"Andy McKay"," Mercenaries"," Pool 3"," Early Medieval German"," "
"Darrell Pearce"," Milton Keynes"," Pool 1"," Later Seleucid"," "
"Harrison Pearce"," Milton Keynes"," Pool 2"," Arab Conquest",
"Richard Collins"," Milton Keynes"," Pool 3"," Later Welsh"," "
"Bob Medcraft"," Oxford"," Pool 1"," Later Seleucid"," "
"David Fairhurst"," Oxford"," Pool 2"," Khurasanian",
"Lynda Fairhurst"," Oxford"," Pool 3"," Italo-Norman",
"Wayne Dare"," Pinner"," Pool 1"," Later Seleucid",
"Graham Evans"," Pinner"," Pool 2"," Arab Conquest",
"Keith Martin-Smith"," Pinner"," Pool 3"," Highlands & Islands"," "
"John Muir"," Scots Wha'hae"," Pool 1"," Later Seleucid",
"Ian Mackay"," Scots Wha'hae"," Pool 2"," Bedouin Dynasties"," "
"John Munro"," Scots Wha'hae"," Pool 3"," Norse Irish"," "
"Gordon Jamieson"," Seal Pup"," Pool 1"," Late Republican Roman"," "
"Dave Saunders"," Seal Pup"," Pool 2"," Avar",
"Simon LeRay Meyer"," Seal Pup"," Pool 3"," Italo-Norman"," "
"Nik Sharpe"," Warlords"," Pool 1"," Parthian",
"Steve Royle"," Warlords"," Pool 2"," Khazar",
"Eric Doman"," Warlords"," Pool 3"," Fanatic Berber",

I need something to do.

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:48 pm

Amateur. Did that ages ago. I also looked at the rankings, put each player's ranking in and added them all up to give seeded team positions.

Code: Select all

Pinner
Milton Keynes
MAWS A
Hampshire Hogs
Impalers
Halifax A
Oxford
Alumwell
MAWS B
Seal Pup
Warlords
Mercenaries
Little Bo Peep's Mates
Wha'hae
Burton
CR&P
Derby
 
France are a complete unknown obviously.
 
Pool results as follows: 
Pool 1               Pool 2           Pool 3
Dave Ruddock         Graham Evans     Keith Martin-Smith
Wayne Dare           Peter Dalby      Richard Collins
Nik Sharpe           Harrison Pearce  Bob Amey
Robert Taylor        David Fairhurst  Nik Gaukroger
David Redhead        Ian Mackay       Peter Butler
Richard Jeffrey-Cook Dino Monticoli   Robert Greenwood
Andy Ellis           James Hamilton   Leslie Mitchell
Darrell Pearce       Paul Brandon     Lance Flint
Dave Morrison        Graham Wilmott   Lynda Fairhurst
Bob Medcraft         Dave Saunders    Simon LeRay Meyer
Simon Clarke         Stephen Clark    Andy McKay
Gordon Jamieson      Steve Royle      Ade Ball
Matthew Poole        Peter Card       Paul Freeman
Lynnette Maxim       Adrian Steer     John Munro
John Muir            Kevin Ellis      Eric Doman
Clive Holland        Marc Lunn        Nigel Philips
Graham Roberts       Peter Gregory    Tony Parkin
Eric Lajus           Frédéric Dufour  Herve Ramonet

You could always do the same with the ELO rankings.

It was a slow day at work.

petedalby · Post by **petedalby** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:54 pm

Underestimate Frederic at your peril - no way will he be last in Pool 2

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:02 pm

petedalby wrote:Underestimate Frederic at your peril - no way will he be last in Pool 2

Those are the seedings based on rankings - I don't have Frederic's ranking as he doesn't have a UK one- hence all the French players are simply at the bottom. I did point this out saying "The French players are a complete unknown obviously".

However, I did happen to notice that Frederic lies second in the French ELO rankings, so should be a bit handy.

Hammy lucked out again

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:04 pm

Not enough pointless stats yet - so, based on the rankings, which pool is the hardest?

petedalby · Post by **petedalby** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:08 pm

so, based on the rankings, which pool is the hardest?

Pool 2?

marshalney2000 · Post by **marshalney2000** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:09 pm

Ah well it looks like a hot day in hell ( or is that two days) for my Norse Irish with a poor army choice and a lowly ranked player like myself to boot.
John

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:11 pm

nikgaukroger wrote:Not enough pointless stats yet - so, based on the rankings, which pool is the hardest?

Look, they may be pointless to you, but any stat that shows Hammy ranked below Dino, Ian Mackay, Harrison and David Fairhurst has got to be worth quite a lot.

I have only actually got the full bonafide rankings at work, so that will have to wait. But I would take an educated guess at pool 1. Darrell Pearce I think is ranked nineteen (although still behind Harrison obviously), and is eighth in the period, so that is a fairly strong standard, with eight of the eighteen in the top twenty.

Two of the bigger hitters are missing in Ian Stewart and Dave Handley of course.

There are also those who have a _false_ ranking in that they haven't attended the requisite number of tournaments. Usually Hammy would claim he is one of these, but there have been grumblings of unrest coming from Liverpool of late...... In fact, Hammy only thinks he will score 80 points this weekend. Which is a significant downturn over the last two years.

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:17 pm

marshalney2000 wrote:Ah well it looks like a hot day in hell ( or is that two days) for my Norse Irish with a poor army choice and a lowly ranked player like myself to boot.
John

Says the man who finished 2nd at Britcon with it in 2009. You're fooling nobody jocko

I, on the other hand, am clearly over rated in that list as I haven't played since the Challenge, and that was FoG:R. It should be a close race between Hammy and myself for position of team bunny this year

marshalney2000 · Post by **marshalney2000** » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:48 pm

Nik, I should also have pointed out that I do have a bad cold. Achoo, achoo, sniffle, sniffle.
John

hannibal · Post by **hannibal** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:28 am

I have been contacted by George Dick expressing an interest in playing at the weekend. Unfortunately I can't accomodate him at this late stage, but if anyone is struggling or knows anyone who has a problem for the weekend please get in touch.

Cheers

Marc

BTW - my kids did the draw last night - some interesting matchups!

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:49 am

hannibal wrote: BTW - my kids did the draw last night - some interesting matchups!

Tease

Publish it - with a caveat that it'll be redone if there are no-shows. Could generate some amusing posts - Dave R will definitely pontuificate ...

marshalney2000 · Post by **marshalney2000** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:49 am

Marc, any reason why you cannot disclose the draw?
John

hannibal · Post by **hannibal** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:01 am

Sorry guys, I'm not releasing the draw until Saturday - I don't want my opponent turing up late on purpose just to avoid the caning I will hand out!

May continue to tease though

titanu · Post by **titanu** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:14 pm

petedalby wrote:
so, based on the rankings, which pool is the hardest?
Pool 2?

I think that 1 and 2 look trickey and Pool 3 appears to be the has beens and neverwases

navigator · Post by **navigator** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:48 pm

info for dave r/robert !!

as well as the big hitters i will also be missing!! house move takes over
paul j