600 Point Early Swedes...

BeansNFranks · Post by **BeansNFranks** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:38 pm

We are playing our first game tonight and I have the choice of taking a more horse dominant army with two units of determined, superior pistol/pistol horse, or adding another Swedish Brigade. I'm going against some dirty, canabalistic Catholic germans.

Any thoughts?

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:08 pm

I'd go for the extra horse to give your existing Swedish Brigades the best chance of getting into contact - use one of the horse uints to protect a flank and the other to chase away the LH that will be used to slow the Brigades down.

Blathergut · Post by **Blathergut** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:55 pm

firepower...toujours le firepower!!

deadtorius · Post by **deadtorius** » Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:48 am

I find its easy for your horse to get tied up and kept out of action for a few turns or most of the game depending on how it goes, I would suggest more firepower myself, so take the foot. If need be they can shoot up the enemy horse and make it easier for your horse to kill them off.

devilforrest · Post by **devilforrest** » Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:39 am

You took the wrong one.
Better luck next time.

deadtorius · Post by **deadtorius** » Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:50 pm

So did he take the foot and roll poorly??? Inquiring minds who gave bad advice need to know.
Surprisingly I have found that protected foot does not do all that well in the case of a cav melee, I had thought the pikes would be more of a deterrent. Guess bad die rolls just spell your doom regardless.

BeansNFranks · Post by **BeansNFranks** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:10 am

deadtorius wrote:So did he take the foot and roll poorly??? Inquiring minds who gave bad advice need to know.
Surprisingly I have found that protected foot does not do all that well in the case of a cav melee, I had thought the pikes would be more of a deterrent. Guess bad die rolls just spell your doom regardless.

I took one unit, which killed three enemy units. Sadly a combination of rolling ones on long distance death rolls, choosing a dumb terrain placement, and misunderstanding how the brigade rule works kind of porked me.

Will do an AAR Monday

devilforrest · Post by **devilforrest** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:27 am

The terrain channeled his infantry heavy list towards supported infantry backed by batteries on hills but his one hot cav BG wiped out a light battery backed by a led infantry regiment supported by a Reiter on the other flank.

deadtorius · Post by **deadtorius** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:44 am

So lost the game but still did magnificently well in body count. well one out of two is not that bad. I take it that was your first game? Live and learn, just try not to forget what you did wrong this time. I have found that open tables are much better than ones crowded with junk, our last game had a lake that ended up on my side of the table. That caused issues to put it mildly.
Better luck next time and will keep an eye out for the AAR

Andy1972 · Post by **Andy1972** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:38 am

I am building a Swede army.. From my experience so far.. If i win the terrain roll.. I pick Hilly.. The impassible has helped so much in the battles. When i lost the terrain roll, i lost.

But that is only 4 games as Swedes.. I have alot to learn about them and other armies.

Blathergut · Post by **Blathergut** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:43 pm

Andy1972 wrote:I am building a Swede army.. From my experience so far.. If i win the terrain roll.. I pick Hilly.. The impassible has helped so much in the battles. When i lost the terrain roll, i lost. But that is only 4 games as Swedes.. I have alot to learn about them and other armies.

Could you give some details/examples of what the terrain was and how you used it?

Andy1972 · Post by **Andy1972** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:46 pm

I use the impassible and/or river to narrow the battle field.. Helping secure the flanks. I am usually always out numbered by 3-4 battle groups.(800pts) The impassible either.. Secures my flank(when on my side) or disrupts my opponents advance when on their side. He has to go around and looses time.. In the time i can beat up some units by the time they get into the battle... Of course i have not rolled to deploy it along the long edge.. So it would be useless if that would happen.

SirGarnet · Post by **SirGarnet** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:29 pm

Andy1972 wrote: Of course i have not rolled to deploy it along the long edge.. So it would be useless if that would happen.

It can still help guard a flank/camp or serve as the hinge for pivoting the army if the ground is suitable.

deadtorius · Post by **deadtorius** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:02 am

And can be a royal pain when it lands somewhere along the long edge or in your half but in from the sides etc.