APrusty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2026 12:19 am Well I drew it up, two possible landings on the same map, Wales or Newcastle. But remember, this was based on the assumption that there was no AI scripted trigger if Axis units lands outside Allies spotting.
McGuba responded with: "Yes, there is such a trigger, i.e. as far as I remember if more than one Axis ground unit reaches British soil then they start to react, even if none of those invading units are within the spotting range of the British units."
If this is accurate then the Wales landing are off the table, but the Newcastle plan is still valid.
Ah, so many questions!
OK, so whatever...
So since we are strictly talking about an early war Sealion attempt and BE v2.4, bear in mind this is only about that. This may also contain some spoilers, but since you have done detailed attack plans, down to each and every unit and so on, I think it is fair for you to know that there are a few additional units that will spawn right AFTER a certain condition is met. Meaning that not all the British units are visible at any given time even if fog of war is lifted.
So basically this is what we are dealing with:
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It also means that a few more British units are spawned in that case , above the ones that can be seen on your screenshots.
It also worth mentioning that not only Axis ground units actually on the ground are counted within this area, but also ground units in the air so yes, it also means paratroopers in the air over this area. And of course ground units in sea transports near the coast, but still within this zone.
So, again, in BE 2.4 the following British units will also spawn (appear out of nowhere) in or near Wales at the beginning of the Allied turn, if the above condition is met which may affect your current planning:
- a Cruiser Mark V "Covenantier" tank unit randomly at or around hex 44,36 within a 1 hex radius
- a Matilda II tank unit randomly at or around hex 46,35 within 1 hex radius
- a Daimler Mark II recon unit randomly at or around hex 46,34 within a 1 hex radius, but only if more than 3 (and not just 2) Axis ground units are in zone 24
- Valentine III tank at hex 48,35, but only if more than 3 Axis ground units are in zone 24
These units are set to attack, so immediately after spawning they will start to move toward any visible enemy unit within range, or towards the nearest enemy objective city.
In BE 2.5 this will be changed a bit, so that these units will spawn with 0 fuel, meaning they cannot immediately start to move in the same turn right after spawning.
Also, if there is a later time Sealion attempt, other, later unit types would spawn instead of these at somewhat different locations. I mean these units would only spawn by turns 30-40 and if Sealion is attempted after that, other, later units types are spawning instead.
Now your questions:
It is hard to say. It mainly depends on your tactical skills. Generally, you need a few good units of each unit type and of course air + naval support. The more units you can allocate, the easier it is. But then those units will be missing from the east, so...Any thing I should add or remove?
Then it also depends on the dice rolls of the battles, you may have an easy ride, or the opposite. The first few battles may be crucial.
Yes, correct, some of their units are set to stay where they are, others, like the above mentioned, are set to counter attack the invaders. Now I do no not remember, but there may also be such a trigger that all remaining units start to counter attack at some point, if they are about to lose, but do not take this for granted.Should I expect the brits to stay more in there designated areas as USSR, or do they counterattack an mass?
My guess would be somewhere in between where mainly armor lead the charge while Inf protect cities.
As far as I am aware, additional ground unit spawns in Britain are cancelled if at least 1 victory objective city in Britain is being held by the Axis.Also are there any specially important VP's to stop spawns, or is it the amount that matter most.
Intend to clear the way down South, Liverpool, Birmingham then London.
However, later British partisan units will start to spawn if all of Britain is captured.
Correct.I have heard 1VP is enough to stop D-day.
Dieppe raid only happens if the Axis do not own any victory objective cities in Britain.How about the Dieppe raid or even Torch, are they affected by GB VP's?
If I remember well, some of the British units may not spawn for Torch if Britain is captured by then, or something like that. But it is only marginal since mainly US units are involved in that. And historically we know that some of the US units sailed straight from America for Torch and not from Britain. So I guess they might as well have done it even without having Britain at that point.
There are pros and cons, but this is quite complicated and up to debate.Do I believe it is more beneficial to attack UK first rather than taking Moscow, Rostov and beelining for Baku. Not really, but I am curious about pros and cons.
Other than all these, I think I would also propose a more conventional southern, Dover style approach as suggested by Uhu. I think that one has more benefits, like having air support from early on etc. etc.
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But the tons of reloads and the dice chess adds also a lot of predictability to it. 
), a lot of arty, probably strat bombers then you can start of it.