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[terminator]

I think that the additional solo scenarios offered for everyone will have a connection with the Russians

[sidxartxa]

Treat your dead head, you fool )))

Well liberals always think that the drug addicted maniac Adolf was better ))))) And so less politics more game !!!! You can always discuss and slander the great victory as well as your flud about the prison of the peoples on your other profile forums among your fellow minds !

You started the politics with mentioning a victory so great, that you don't even put a capital letter there.
And a soviet legacy so tough that you have a cultural Anglo-Saxon nickname and Goodwins Law comes in almost immediately.

[bondjamesbond]

Treat your dead head, you fool )))

Well liberals always think that the drug addicted maniac Adolf was better ))))) And so less politics more game !!!! You can always discuss and slander the great victory as well as your flud about the prison of the peoples on your other profile forums among your fellow minds !

You started the politics with mentioning a victory so great, that you don't even put a capital letter there.
And a soviet legacy so tough that you have a cultural Anglo-Saxon nickname and Goodwins Law comes in almost immediately.

Have a rest !Your political trolling and nonsense doesn't need anyone here )

[terminator]

This post is turning to vinegar

[sidxartxa]

Well this thread got me thinking - what the hell am I doing here? And I came up with three simple facts:

1. I’m all up for wargames being accurate. I have no problems with swastikas and red flags if they are accurate, and I’m also not a fan of adding gay people or people of colour when in reality nothing like this happened back then. Lots of wars were fight largely by white males, so no drama here. It is what it is.

2. USSR was not glorious. It was one of the countries that started WW2 together with the nazis. It was betrayed by the nazis and managed to fight back largely due to Allied support. And just as WW2 ended it occupied a huge part of Europe and started the Cold War. Mr. Uzbek here is clearly a product of Soviet/Russian propaganda, so it’s hard for him to acknowledge these truths and he’ll just push his own agenda drop-by-drop, accusing everybody else to be nazis and liberals.

3. And I’m all up for keeping the politics out. Ir tomorrow a big Wehrmacht expansion goes live and someone comes here and posts something like “Hey, thanks for respecting the proper champions, guys.” I will greet him with the same hostility. There’s nothing cool about cheering for autocracies, tyrannies and all the wrong shit humanity did along the way.

So yes — let’s keep politics our and let’s not cheer for glorious victories committed by rather inglorious countries.

[Edmon]

Also quite fun to see how Das Reich is perceived as something beyond in this context. USSR was a mass-murdering regime led by idiots and bastards, and while historically there is no problem with using the flags and logos, this whole "Time to go Soviet!" thing sounds like someone was not studying history.

Treat your dead head, you fool )))

Thank you for remembering those who truly broke the back of fascism!

The nations enslaved by the Soviet Union broke the back of fascism, not the man-eating maniac-led system above them.

Well liberals always think that the drug addicted maniac Adolf was better ))))) And so less politics more game !!!! You can always discuss and slander the great victory as well as your flud about the prison of the peoples on your other profile forums among your fellow minds !

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Also quite fun to see how Das Reich is perceived as something beyond in this context. USSR was a mass-murdering regime led by idiots and bastards, and while historically there is no problem with using the flags and logos, this whole "Time to go Soviet!" thing sounds like someone was not studying history.

Tone down the insult hurling guys,

We have rules on civil behaviour here, and if you can't follow them, you'll leave me little choice but to apply restrictions to your accounts.

Regards,
Edmon

[sidxartxa]

All good, mate. I'll go back to Battlesector since the tanks are way cooler there)

[gaius21]

only 9 missions though? I hope at least the latter scenarios will represent the deep battle doctrine.

[terminator]

only 9 missions though? I hope at least the latter scenarios will represent the deep battle doctrine.

Same number of missions as in Panzer Corps 2: Elite - Ghost Division for the same price.

[adiekmann]

only 9 missions though? I hope at least the latter scenarios will represent the deep battle doctrine.

Same number of missions as in Panzer Corps 2: Elite - Ghost Division for the same price.

Again, I'd gladly pay twice as much for double the number of scenarios. I don't think the average age of the player for this game is 8 years old and $10 is going to break the bank whereas $5 isn't. Longer DLCs/campaigns also offer more replay value too, IMO.

Longer/bigger scenarios help, but are still not a substitute. I do not always want a super long/big scenario one after the other. I thought AO did a pretty good job with mixing it up, though some more key long battles were in order (Stalingrad more on the order of what was done in PC1 GC).

[terminator]

I don’t always have much time to play and this format with 9 scenarios suits me well.
Larger scenarios bring a strategic dimension that smaller scenarios do not have.
If you add the price of all the DLCs, we arrive at €153.25.

[bondjamesbond]

7710 руб.= 81,95 EUR . 95,22 USD
https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/1 ... e_Edition/

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[Tassadar]

The price point and lower scenario count is fine. There can be multiple DLC types with different focus that coexist. We have this small, focused Elite series, there's Frontlines with its standard size, there are now linked campaigns in the works that we know of and then there's also the potential for return of War Stories and Axis Operations. I don't see how every DLC has to follow the same philosophy. The game would not evolve and improve otherwise.

As for combined DLC price, true, it is massive. But then again, these are not meant to be played and bought all at once. They just pile up over time depending on the player's pace and preference.

[Brenmusik]

Well this thread got me thinking - what the hell am I doing here? And I came up with three simple facts:

1. .. and I’m also not a fan of adding gay people or people of colour when in reality nothing like this happened back then. Lots of wars were fight largely by white males, so no drama here. It is what it is.

Simple facts are often a problem. I don't know how many "happy people" fought. I expect there is information about if one looks for it.
I do know that more than a fair few "people of colour" (I was pink-ish, last time looked) fought in it. The largest all volunteer army was from the Indian Subcontinent. So sometimes it is not what it is!

[sidxartxa]

Simple facts are often a problem. I don't know how many "happy people" fought. I expect there is information about if one looks for it.
I do know that more than a fair few "people of colour" (I was pink-ish, last time looked) fought in it. The largest all volunteer army was from the Indian Subcontinent. So sometimes it is not what it is!

As for the first point - well, let's say that Alan Turing broke the Enigma code and eventually he was murdered by his own state for being gay.
As for people of any colour - I'm all up for seeing them properly depicted in regions where they actually participated. That's historical accuracy and it's my thing.
The only thing I'm not okay is - falsification and twisting of history. My great-grandfather fought in WW2 on the soviet side, one of my great-granduncles was murdered by the nazis, and all of my elder generation lived through WW2 and German occupation. Nothing was glorious about any of it. So sometimes it is what it is)

[Brenmusik]

Oh dear, we're nearing the rabbit hole "murdered by his own state" really? I had read, he committed suicide by eating a poisoned apple. Clearly, I am mistaken and bow before your superior knowledge on the subject.

[sidxartxa]

Oh dear, we're nearing the rabbit hole "murdered by his own state" really? I had read, he committed suicide by eating a poisoned apple. Clearly, I am mistaken and bow before your superior knowledge on the subject.

No idea why you keep dragging it. There are multiple official apologies for this "poisoned apple" and I don't have any superior knowledge here, just general knowledge about the history of personal computers.

[terminator]

Oh dear, we're nearing the rabbit hole "murdered by his own state" really? I had read, he committed suicide by eating a poisoned apple. Clearly, I am mistaken and bow before your superior knowledge on the subject.

Did he eat this apple ?

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