PC1 remake Mod - 1944east

[ME262]

Greeting 3 new Awards ,
(correcting a previous code :::cheat AddMedal UrbanLegendMedal (close-defense+1) /goofed up spelling on earlier post/

cheat AddMedal AntiTankVeteranMedal (level 1)

cheat AddMedal DependableSupportMedal (level +1)

cheat AddMedal AntiInfantryVerteranMedal (level 0)

NOTE: save game between each Medal addition, it only takes one mistyped letter or number and it will cause a UnityEngine crash!

[adiekmann]

Especially the capture mechanic where u get the unit(stock) AND the prestige. Kinda makes no sense to me. U should only get the prestige when u sell/disband the stock, not when u use it. Sadly thats too deep into the game for us too reach with modding atm.

sers,
Thomas

I totally agree!! I have always thought so too from the very beginning when the vanilla game released. It never made sense to me.

[DefiantXYX]

Why not? Prestige is not like money, or a ressource you can touch.
I got 50 T34 to sell ==> ok, you get 500 prestige for that. Its not like that.

You capture enemy units, so the oberkommando gives you prestige for that, because you are doing a good job. Does not matter if you destroy the tanks or send them home. And by capturing units you also get fuel, food and other equipment. Unfortunately the game only has one ressource, so everything counts into the prestige numbers.

But of course I see the problem how this can be game breaking. You can keep units alive, especially when you have enough turns left, and farm them for prestige.
I got no problem, if you have to decide between prestige and the units in your stock. I keep recycling the crap anyway, there are only a few allied units if you at some parts in the war.

[adiekmann]

Why not? Prestige is not like money, or a ressource you can touch.
I got 50 T34 to sell ==> ok, you get 500 prestige for that. Its not like that.

You capture enemy units, so the oberkommando gives you prestige for that, because you are doing a good job. Does not matter if you destroy the tanks or send them home. And by capturing units you also get fuel, food and other equipment. Unfortunately the game only has one ressource, so everything counts into the prestige numbers.

But of course I see the problem how this can be game breaking. You can keep units alive, especially when you have enough turns left, and farm them for prestige.
I got no problem, if you have to decide between prestige and the units in your stock. I keep recycling the crap anyway, there are only a few allied units if you at some parts in the war.

Think in real life terms. If for example Rommel captures GMC trucks in North Africa from the British, can he get more Panzers/artillery/etc. from it? No, of course not. It only serves two benefits beyond depriving the enemy from using it: 1. Use it yourself (for free!), or 2. send it back to Germany for testing/evaluation/etc.

So to your point, yes it is worth some prestige if you send it back to Germany and they learn something from it (i.e. sell it back/delete from your inventory for the prestige). Otherwise you should be able to use it for free as limited stock. And even then it has limited value in real life. If you have a greatly inferior or obsolete AT gun, for instance, then it would serve no value or purpose in sending back to Germany. It's the same reason why an old iPad has little to no value in trade-in because nobody wants it any more because it can't even keep up with modern tasks. So should you even receive prestige for deleting captured 37mm AT guns from 1939 in 1944? I think not.

[DefiantXYX]

Think in real life terms. If for example Rommel captures GMC trucks in North Africa from the British, can he get more Panzers/artillery/etc. from it? No, of course not.

Yes, you can. You have to think around. You get prestige if the oberkommando is happy with you. You capture a lot a stuff also means you are doing a good job. Well done, here is some prestige.
You have some prestige? You get the fresh new tiger tanks, while generals who are losing or retreating get some Panzer IV

[adiekmann]

Think in real life terms. If for example Rommel captures GMC trucks in North Africa from the British, can he get more Panzers/artillery/etc. from it? No, of course not.

Yes, you can. You have to think around. You get prestige if the oberkommando is happy with you. You capture a lot a stuff also means you are doing a good job. Well done, here is some prestige.
You have some prestige? You get the fresh new tiger tanks, while generals who are losing or retreating get some Panzer IV

Sorry, but I still disagree. Rommel DID DO a good job, but he never had enough _________ at any time. Even if you take away the supply issues and British interception of shipping, he famously said after he was promoted to FM, "I'd rather he had given me another division." That means more units. Now this opens the whole discussion of limited stock, or making unit availability based on historical production rates so you can't field seven Tiger 1 units at the same time type of thing. Western Allies captured a fair amount of German equipment but used very little of it because they didn't usually need it. They produced enough of their own stuff, not got more because their superiors were so happy that they captured so much. In game, I rarely have ever used captured stuff because the German equivalent is usually better and no worries of running out. Now if you're playing a limited stock game, then that changes things but also mimics the situation Rommel usually found himself in, or all of the German forces starting around I'd say 1942. Their industry couldn't keep up demand regardless of how successful you were.

[dalfrede]

Sorry, but I still disagree. Rommel DID DO a good job, but he never had enough _________ at any time. Even if you take away the supply issues and British interception of shipping, he famously said after he was promoted to FM, "I'd rather he had given me another division." . . .

Small point most people don't know:
During the entire N. African campaign, the German army had more divisions in Norway than in N. Africa.

[adiekmann]

Sorry, but I still disagree. Rommel DID DO a good job, but he never had enough _________ at any time. Even if you take away the supply issues and British interception of shipping, he famously said after he was promoted to FM, "I'd rather he had given me another division." . . .

Small point most people don't know:
During the entire N. African campaign, the German army had more divisions in Norway than in N. Africa.

I did know that. In fact, my grandfather's brother was one of them. He arrived right around the time operations in Norway were wrapping up and remained there for the rest of the war. I got to speak to him in the '80s when I was a teenager at my aunt's silver anniversary wedding. He had a good time he told me! Spoke of some who complained about "no action" and requested a transfer to the Easter Front!

Had a relationship with a nice Norwegian girl who became the mother of one of ABBA's singers...

[Just kidding, that wasn't him! ]

[DefiantXYX]

Sorry, but I still disagree. Rommel DID DO a good job, but he never had enough _________ at any time. Even if you take away the supply issues and British interception of shipping, he famously said after he was promoted to FM, "I'd rather he had given me another division." That means more units.

I dont see any problem with that. More prestige does not mean enough prestige to win the battle. And more than that, even endless prestige does not mean you can have endless units and supplies.
The game is realistic at this point, doesnt matter if you have 1k, 10k, or 100k prestige. Your army is limited by the core slots. And I am always playing with limited stock, because it makes sense. Once again, doesnt matter how much prestige you have, if there are only 20 tiger parts you cant have more.