Samurai basing....

[Trench_Raider]

Hullo everyone!
Just as I did with the Vikings, I'm sitting on alot of unpainted lead and would love to have an army up and ready when the new list book comes out in a few weeks. To this end, I've been steadilly painting on the mass of Tin Soldier Samurai I have had gathering dust for years.

I got a glimpse of the later Samurai list from a copy of Empires of the Dragon that came back with another player from Gen Con. So I have a good idea of how to base the various troop types. But I'm running low on mounted figures. I don't recall, but is there a period of the late Samurai list that permits the "MF bow*, HW" troops that make up the majority of the army to be depicted as traditional infantry rather than the deep based mixed cavalry and infantry stands? Tin Soldier are a pain to obtain here in the US, they simply do not mix at all with any other brand of 15mm figures, and shipping costs to order them online are a bit expensive.

Thanks.
TR

[hammy]

For the mixed formations you can either have half a BG of normal cavalry and half a BG of medium foot or as suggested by the list notes have the whole BG with 1 cavalry and 2 infantry per base on mob (or in other words) cavalry sized bases.

[Trench_Raider]

I could have sworn I saw an option somewere in the list notes that after some date close to the end of the period covered by the list were the "bushi and followers" troop type could be depicted as normal medium infantry.
That's what I get for relying on five minutes of looking at the list and trying to recall what I saw.

Looks like it's time to order more cavalry figures....especially since I want at least two or three BGs of seperate cav as well as the mixed units.

TR

[Legionbuilder]

Interesting - I can't wait to see the supliment

[IanB3406]

Marty,

You are right I believe - after ~1470 (I'll check the exact date tonight if I get the time) they can be based as regular medium infantry, obviously without the mounted figure on the base.

[hammy]

You can have detached followers but if you want to represent bushi and followers there should be some mounted in the BG.

[Trench_Raider]

who is Marty?

So what does the actual list notes read on the subject, Ian?

TR

[rbodleyscott]

is there a period of the late Samurai list that permits the "MF bow*, HW" troops that make up the majority of the army to be depicted as traditional infantry rather than the deep based mixed cavalry and infantry stands?

Yes, after 1467 this is an option. They should be mixed foot samurai and followers on normal MF bases.

[Trench_Raider]

Well, straight from the horses mouth so to speak! That clears it up for me.

My confusion was a result of seeing the "based as normal MF" without noticing that the BGs should still be mixed cavalry and infantry. As it's a trick to try and get Tin Soldier 15mm cavalry figures to fit on a normal 40x30 base, let alone a 40x20, it looks like I will be using the standard basing and now need to procure at least 24-36 more Samurai cavalry figures. Of course this depends on how many BGs of seperate cavarly I decide to run. Given that superior armoured cav with bow and swordsman are pretty effective, I'll probably run at least two or three.

TR

[philqw78]

I'll probably rebase about a two-thirds of my samurai on double depth bases. 1 Cav and 4 inf figures. The other third then used as the ones removed for casualties.

If only I had kept the bases I took off my Swiss Halberdiers

[Trench_Raider]

On a related note, I'm rapidly aproaching the end of this project. The army will certainly be ready to play the day the army book sees general release. But can someone jog my memory for me? What's the stand count on the "armed ladies" BG?

TR