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Grondel
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Re: AO-REDONE on steam

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DefiantXYX wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:41 pm Not sure, I would say it doesnt matter if you get any planes in the first time, but not 100% sure.

Is it possible to get lets say some spitfire II in 1940 (sealion)? I dont know the exact spezification but all french planes I got during Fall Gelb were superior to the 109E. There are some french planes that have the same stats like a 190e but have more range. I never got a single one of them.
If the plane flies on the enemy side u can get it.

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Thomas
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Re: AO-REDONE on steam

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Either I was very unlucky or the chance to get the good stuff is low.
The french D-520 is definately flying all the time and respawning from hangars and I never got a single one. There is only an event or cache where you got some, but never from conquering an airfield.
Grondel
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Re: AO-REDONE on steam

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DefiantXYX wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:57 am Either I was very unlucky or the chance to get the good stuff is low.
The french D-520 is definately flying all the time and respawning from hangars and I never got a single one. There is only an event or cache where you got some, but never from conquering an airfield.
520 can def be aquired from capturing airfields.
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Chances are:
50% to get planes
if u get planes then its:
3/6 fighter
2/6 tac bomber
1/6 strat bomber

Chance to get a fighter plane when captirung an airfield is 25%.
chance to get a D520 is 1/3 vs MS406 2/3

Chance to get an D520 when capturing an airfield is roughly 8.4%

If u got none u are indead unlucky. :)


sers,
Thomas
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Re: AO-REDONE on steam

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I somehow lost a savegame, so I had to replay seelion from the start. Dont know if I was smarter this time, or if your update from 14.12. already changed something with the respawn of planes. But Dover and Brighton was a way easier this time, but not easy at all.

Dover is ok so far. I killed 7 hangers and it has effect on the enemy repawn. I could handle it. The hangars are not protected by bunkers, so can kill them all.

Brighton. Like I said at the beginning this time it had the feeling, that the repawn is less annoying. But I also used some nasty hero combinations this time. Camo + double support, so my 2 AA guns were shooting all the time taking out 3-6 planes all the time. But still, they are running out of ammunitions and cant protect everything. My fighter got some double attack + overstrength + no retaliation, so I could take out 4-6 enemies every turn. And thank god the AI is stupid, attacking my level bombers all the time, while my fighter do support fire. So the AI ruins like 4-8 fighters in some turns. Problem is I was running out of stock of level bombers. Submarines did a good job to kill the enemy navy. Since this stupid AA mod of the ships is so annoying, sometimes you cant even attack by air.
I kille 7 hangards, some of them are hard to reach, so you have a constant respawn.It is doable if you have a hard focus on air and anti-air.

Epsom. Just a pain in the ass. I killed 11 hangards in the end, some are unreachable under normal conditions. There are plenty of planes spawning all the time and you cant really get rid of them. Even with using some unfair tactics like I said above you cant protect your whole army. So you are taking losses all the time, which makes the map really hard and frustrating. Plus the reinforcement the british get anyways in this map.
Imo just too many planes or too high rate of respawn.

Portsmouth. Its ok again, but still annoying most of the time. I noticed the navy is also respawning als long as the carrier is alive?!
My problem was I almost had no JU-88 left, so I had problems to kill the navy. I once again took out 7 hangers, one survived.

I tried to comprehend how much planes are spawning depending on the numbers of hangars but thats not really possible, without using the cheatcode to lift the fog of war. This time I felt some effect after killing the hangers, which is good. But still the overall repawn is too fast. The game feels like 80% is dealing only with air and anti air, which is too much imo.

And I did some statistics this time :)
It took 29 airfields this time. I was 13x rewarded, 16 not.

I got:
- 1x Spitfire MK II (nice!)
- 6x Spiter MK I (garbage)
- 1x Hurricane MK I (garbarge)
- 2x Battle MK II (huge garbage)
- 1x Wellington MK IC (ok...)
- 1x Beautifigther MK I F (nice!)
- 2x Blenheim MK I (garbage)
- 1x Whitley MK V (ok...)

After 4 missions vs the british I got a lot of barage. There is no reason to use anything of that.
I got some additional Spitfire MK II and I can run 1x Beautifighters, as long as the take some damage.

For me the feature doesnt do anything. I prefer to sometimes find some caches.
In the russian campaign I dont see a reason for this feature at all. Even the best russian stuff is garbage.
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Re: AO-REDONE on steam

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Grondel wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:04 pm Edit:
During Valona u can reap the spoils for saving the kriegsmarine. Did the script work fine for u?
Script did work for me. I got 2 heroes as reward. Nice!

Any plans if you got on with the REDONE and when?
Grondel
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Re: AO-REDONE on steam

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DefiantXYX wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 11:17 pm Script did work for me. I got 2 heroes as reward. Nice!
Any plans if you got on with the REDONE and when?
no timetable set, still debating with myself how to handle AO41+ since i grow incrisingly unhappy with the series the later the years.

currently i am working on PC1 remake 1940/1940LTD and 1941 continuation war and remake of kiev/leningrad path.

not sure when i will return to working on AO redone. best guess is, when inspiration strikes. :)

sers,
Thomas
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