The asault i can easily find them in erope, not that easy in spain, but old glory... wher to buy them at good price?? ( i dont really need 30 azabs...)

Gracias robert, digo david... pero me temo que a 28 voy a poner peanas de impetus y acabaré jugando al impetus o las pondré encima de la tele...

Un solo BG de jenizaros son 8 peanas de 6 cm... 24 cm de frente!!! y 32 figuras, unos 40 eurillos... y hay que pintarlas demasiado para mi envejecido ...

not very good pictures i can hardly imagine the quality, but those charging sipahiis looks qute good. It does exist a web/shop where to buy Old glory, the assault and beardsden miniatures?? an all in one post charges?

Well i want to re-build and paint a 28mmm later ottoman turk. I m about to choose some from the Assault group turks and some from the Old Glory ranges. Seems that the old glory ones are worth because of their lower prices, but what about his quality???

The assault group does not have XV C, turks ...

Es que con impetus te ahorras algo en figurillas, para fog una ud de 4 de Cv son 12cm de ancho y acaban siendo tambien 12 figuras... en impetus con 5 vas de calle...

Habeis leido/visto/jugado a fog a 28mm?? se juega tambien a 800 puntos? y la mesa?? o es mejor a 600... no descarto hacerme uno a 28mm quizas un turco otmano para variar....

i ussualy take allways 2 MF Bgs, i found them precious and delightful, my 2 Janissaires!!! protected, superior, drilled bow and sword armed MF!!! whoau!!!

in declaration of charges it is written:
...to be allowed to declare there must be a visible enemy base that can be "legaly" contacted within its NORMAL move

does "normal" move inclodes a wheel? and a 90º turn and move?? ( thats a normal move and simple for some kind of troops)

does normal ...

The creators/publishers should create a definitive rules explanation. it is a very weak point of the rules. In a tournement allways trouble

All i can say is that is big, lots of BGs. Here we are not using such big poor quality armies. But it seems that there in GB those armies rules! I use some poor LF and i like them, but i know they will flee in face of other LF.
I use the 8 bow LF BG but not 4.
I use also a 2 elements BG, but these ...

Ilove ottomans, i adore ottomans, i think there is a list that can allways hide a surprise, and the posibilities of combining troops is great, good Cv, "cheap" bw LH, sme Kn allied, some 8 points handgun BG... brilliant janissaries... lots of L Foot, from poor to sup, from bow to jav, to sling or Xb ...

Boxed set? Do you miean DBA spartan army by Xyston? If so, that box includes only 40 hoplites, enough for a BG and half another one. For a entire spartan army I would use, among Xyston range, spartan hoplites in metal cuirass for true spartan citizens, A.K.A. Homoioi; Spartan hoplites in linen ...

timmy1 wrote:Jer took a 40EE DBM army to the ITC, this looks similarly ballsy. Time to find out if you have cajones to match Jer's...

--- cojones...

Do a failed death roll mean that that base will not be eliminated but eaten???

It allows to chose a point of the tabletop to be the"target" it enables not to declare a charge over a unit ( more sense) but a charge path where enemy units will react.

Now you must not choose a target but a direction... quite unfair

I ussualy see in the battles fought, that the charge s direction are declared without any "clear" target, ie, a unit or BG, but are declared on " a direction, that would create a path where evaders will evade, i mean a charge made to clear an space, we are seing then a unit that is not charging at ...

We declare the path at the same time as the charge declaration, it simplifies evasio/interception.

But i am in the opnion than, first declaration of charges, then all possible targets declare to evade or not, interceptions are made and then evasion and the charges. But that creates more confusion ...

mine was :

8x Azaps LF, poor, bow
4x Ajinjis
4x Akinjis
4x Other balkan LH ave, bow, sw
4x Azab Handgunner, poor (8 points !!!!)
8x jenissaries( prot)
4x timariots Arm, sup
4x timariots Arm, sup
4x Qapuqulu, superior
8x jenissary (prot)

4x Azaps HdG poor
2x Qapuqulu Sup
4x Serbian Kn ...

Thanks to all, but it was easy done.

He fielded some 6 BG of protected Offensive spearmen, 2 BG of unprotected bow MF, no LF!! and an pecheneg ally, 2 6 st Ave Cv protected...

I put lots of terrain where to break his spears order, and fight with my 2 Jenissaries BG, as protected as him and ...

With regards to quality status in the lists, my main beef is that too many troops are listed as superior when more average would have allowed for finer distinctions. For example, how do you reflect that French knights were regarded as better than their contemporaries when virtually all knights are ...