What about the second scenario where the LH pass a CMT to charge Cv that evade such that the LH are now charging a different non-skirmisher BG? Does the CMT carry over to the new target?

The rule on page 60 suggests no.

"must halt their charge 1 MU away from enemy to their front whom they would ...

smaul1 wrote:can a second rank shift while the front rank does not.

No. If you start in a legal formation then an advance cannot change that formation. If you want to shuffle rear rank bases around, you need to expand, contract or turn.

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Matthew

so after impact we were able to conform some of the purple to the light green, but we are not sure how to conform the 1 purple stand that impacted the red BG.

You never 'conform some' of a BG. If any can't, then none do.
do we leave them as is (not moving them at all) with the one stand of ...

Cheap tat just standing in a line waiting to be charged v decent impetuous troops trying to force the issue.
Classification as 'Defensive spear' indicates a style of drill or low-level tactical doctrine, not ingrained cowardice. Yes, some troops so classified are 'cheap tat'; they are the ones ...

And yet the defensive spear is as good as offensive spear once you charge it...? And cheaper.

Indeed. It's quite satisfying to see drilled offensive spear at 8AP each charging enthusiastically into my undrilled defensive ones at 6AP each. The combat is absolutely even, and there's more of me ...

What about Armoured, Average, Undrilled, Defensive spear then?

My take on Defensive spear is that they need to be apparently soft enough to encourage the enemy to engage them (rather than just skirmishing or avoiding them) while in fact being tough enough to hang on until the more mobile or ...

Can any army get lots (i.e. at least 16) bases of Armoured, Poor, Undrilled Defensive Spearmen?

Armoured defensive spearmen aren't very common. But given that maintaining cohesion is so critical for spearmen, I really can't see why you would prefer poor armoured to average protected for the same ...

Caledonian wrote:You then roll VMDs for both your BGs. The one with the resulting highest move then moves first.

You are thinking of initial pursuits. For charges the charging player chooses the order in which his BGs move, and does so before rolling VMDs.

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Matthew

A combination of troops that can skirmish, preferably ones that can shoot as well, plus solid heavy foot like pikes or spearmen is the probably the best way to deal with knights.

I resemble that remark, though I think the shooting is optional. My Later Visigoths (centre of defensive spear, flanks ...

pylum2 wrote:we forgot the 1 step loss too,for the flank charge,too,btw.

There isn't one for battle troops charged in the flank by skirmishers.

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Matthew

A unit of 6 MF (Unit A) in single column charges an ememy unit of 3 wide and 2 deep MF (Unit B) in the flank.
Unit B turns 2 bases (one behind the other) to face the chargers, leaving the remaining 4 bases facing in the original direction.
The impact is fought.
Q1 - Does Unit B suffer any penalty ...

pbrandon wrote:"OK I'll take a test then".

Some dice are thrown.

"OK, I'll go fragged then".

Just sharing the pain.

Were you already disrupted? (You can't drop two levels from shooting.)

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Matthew

domblas wrote:the third buket is subject to controversy becoz the probability that u exactly touch both bases of the 2 BG is infinity small.

So you contact one of them first, and then step forward into the other one.

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Matthew

Then people are too hung up on the +5 routed enemy bonus. Get rid of it.
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Games that don't end in a rout ARE being won and lost, people are just too fixated on the Decisive Victory.

Game that don't end in a rout haven't ended. Crediting the person who happens to be ahead on points when a game is ...

1 base width 4 elements deep of pike is a fighting formation.
True, but difficult to realize. I haven't rules at hand, but I don't think pikes BG could be less than 8 bases at start.
Most pike are in 8s or 12s, but there are a few 4s (e.g. mercenaries in WotR English, Swiss in Medieval Burgundian ...

As so often in FoG, the answer is in the turn sequence: intercepts move before evades, so the LF can't evade from the intercept. And intercepts can't contact enemy, except as a legal flank or rear charge on the BG being intercepted, so the auxiliaries have to stop short of the LF.


The ...

FWIW if I were to pick a fuller wording to cover this unusual one it would be:

Orb can be formed from a formation 2 bases wide, or 1 base width if only 2 bases deep (and therefore a fighting formation and not a column). A contraction can be included in the move if outside a restricted area.


1 ...

they cant intercept- you need to have a totally clear, straight ahead path to the chargers.
Ok, I'll accept that, but can you point out a rule?

As so often in FoG, the answer is in the turn sequence: intercepts move before evades, so the LF can't evade from the intercept. And intercepts can't ...

A BG of 2 bases cannot form Orb as an orb is by definition 2 wide.

But a BG with 2 bases can be 2 wide. 1 base faces forwards, 1 backwards. Nothing wrong with that is there?

Yes - you turn at least 1/2 the ranks not at least 1/2 the bases.

Fine. You have one rank, so you turn it; 1 is at ...

philqw78 wrote:IIRC BG cannot be placed where they cannot move, so no.

If this were true then heavy artillery could never be deployed anywhere.

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Matthew