My experience starting DBM and watching in continually having print outs and addendums is that once a rule set can't be simply bought and played with a single book no one new will ever start playing it .

And FOGR is starting off a far lower base.

So without a new book you are pretty much dooming ...

I only used to play 3 or 4 day I period 25mmgames until I joined league of ancients club and saw Vikings fighting assyrians

Fantasy. Good fun. Not a simulation

But when people go down this historical path they are kidding
themselves
There were mounted armies and there was artillery

In dbmm ...

I have been watching these restrictions being brought in from Australia with concern.

As most here in Melbourne know I play a similar style in all periods in all rules.

If you put your 5 guns on an angle defensively and they never fire and my 6 or 8 guns are pushed forward [ with risk]
But they ...

The errata for 1805-7 French says Guard can replace similar core troops .

Clearly that can't be exactly like for like.
Do the mean line infantry replace line? Or light cav replace light cav?

It says Guard , not Guard infantry only.

The rules say only one unit can occupy a building. I assume this is a village on the terrain lists.
Does this apply to a double village? I assume it does. Pretty big coverage for one unit.

Only artillery can fire against defended villages.

On the assault phase then, after everyone gets their 4 ...

KendallB, just getting back to the assault definition , it simply says a contact has to be made in a normal move. Nothing about centre lines.

In the wheeling section, it says it must wheel as far as necessary to place part of the target in front of their centre line
OR as far as possible if this ...

The other issue regarding abandoned guns is on page 29 it says in reaction moves as a retire , gunners take refuge behind an infantry unit within 2MU.
What if there is no infantry unit within 2 MU?
Yet elsewhere the gun crew is treated as an ethereal entity which can come back to the guns once ...

That's what I thought.
Interesting about the outcome move if you have received defensive fire. What category do you use?

The requirement for a slide within 6 MU is to only avoid friends with a minimum distance slid.
You can argue whether this can be done in a charge because it is discussed in the movement section.

Any other slide can't come closer than 2MU excluding an assault.

As a new player something I thought was simple has been questioned by another newish player.

I thought any contact with an assaulted unit was an assault. page 28

In particular 2 units charging 1.

My friend has jumped to the the wheeling section and interpreted that all chargers must wheel to ...

I may have this wrong but a part time attendee of the site would read Cancon 10 spots , 10 gone.

Is this right?

FOGR could be running towards numero uno if it looked open.

There had been some disagreement with the " turning to face as per a normal turn " being against the overall game concept with every matched base on impact actually fighting on impact.

In a variation of that scenario , if the flanked spear were already in fighting to their front when individually ...

Now I'm more confused.

My page 67 11 lines down says evading troops can shift one base to get past enemy troops.

In the second column of the same page 67 it states if this does not allow front rank bases to evade
THEN it must halt 1MU with no shifting or contracting at all.

Dave, apart from a shift to avoid enemy being allowed, what else is wrong ?

bbotus brings up many crucial points in this situation which I must admit not being a great skirmisher had eluded me until recently.

Important stuff to know and remember.

That would fix it although the way it is written at the end of the section on page 54 I wasnt
sure whether they were taking about all of the turns, expansions , contractions or only the one to avoid enemy.

It does make sense that everything is included.

I thought it wasnt covered. Who contacts first is relatively easy if you go down the who is faster path. [ assuming someone is faster]

The main issue I found was where does the other one go and who else do they hit. Which seems unresolved.

If we had played both have to hit [ contracting etc] it ...

A unit of knights and lancer cav both fail not to charge.

The cav goes first , contacts , and blocks the knights totally from contacting the enemy.

Do the knights
A Follow the original charge path as far as they can and then get blocked by the cav
B Not move at all
C Contract and wheel around ...

Yes , MF partially in the rough.

And yes I see it's only POA and Cohesion tests only applying in open terrain that are affected by forts.

Sorry Nik , to clarify I am talking about lancers [ or mounted v MF ] in totally clear terrain fighting MF infantry who are in rough.
They seem to keep the lancer and mounted plusses as long as they dont come into the rough. .

The query was about fortifications , with again the mounted seemingly ...