So is this really legal?

You can't move through defended FF, right? It's only if the FF are undefended that they can be moved through. Contacting the rear of the FF makes them, by definition, defended.

Don't get me started on the rather stretched application of "behind FF" being used to ...

It is FOG policy not to have special rules for different armies.

I can't see how this can be true. There are army-specific rules scattered through the list books.

There are? Unless you count special interpenetration permissions (which are actually mentioned in the rules), I recall only two ...

rbodleyscott wrote:

IanB3406 wrote:So vikings with a spear are shock and with a big axe are not? The axe makes them timid? Really?

It is FOG policy not to have special rules for different armies.

I can't see how this can be true. There are army-specific rules scattered through the list books.

It seems to me that these aren't going to get covered by anything other than the existing "ally" list. Is that correct?

Before I go through the trouble of researching and writing a full list, I just figured I'd make sure.

I've noticed others have the same problem. It means they've been short-changed as they lack the Impact +POA that troops with Light Spear have yet cost the same.

So don't use them. They are not compulsory. Against contemporary opponents in the early part of the period they will be fine - e.g. vs ...

My issue with the battlegroups in FoG is not their numbers. It's the fact that for so many purposes, they all count as the same. You've still got "filler" (after the ridiculous geometry that bore such importance, the thing I hated most about DBx). Breaking a 4 stand unit of MF is worth the same as ...

Page 72 illustrates the correct procedure to CONFORM when a BG is in contact with the front and flank of the enemy. The base which contacted the flank conforms to an overlap by the shortest move possible. In this case a simple pivot to be in side edge to side edge contact.
When REFORMING the bases ...

awesum4 wrote: So just shrug it off as the fortunes of war.

Why?

Why should my cavalry stand around like statues? I fully understand the mechanics of mounted breaking off from foot. It's my mounted, in fine shape, just standing there and watching that's the problem (again, IMHINHO).

So in the interest of avoiding a complication you've chosen to introduce a a complete "WTF??" game mechanic.

I'm sure this mechanic is unrelated to any Warhammer rules set.


Also, in order to chase the enemy cavalry after it moves off, I would have to move my own cavalry across in front of the ...

We took the view that rather than complicate matters with other restrictions:

1) if you felt your cavalry could beat them then dont charge with the pikes

2) If you are charging with the pikes the purspose os to break the enemy cav quickly or force them away.

So the move you have executed above ...

My cavalry unit charges enemy cavalry. Fair fight, evenly matched, offset by one stand, but we each fight with all our stands in melee. They fight some number of rounds of combat, both remain intact.

Now my Pike phalanx charges into the front of the enemy cavalry cavalry unit, so it's now fighting ...

Lou Cardinale will be running a 2 game tournament at PointCon-

"I will be running an FoG tournament, at West Point on Saturday, April 25th, for the Point Con convention. It will consist of 2 x rounds, each of 3 1/2 hours, using a single 800 pt. list, from any of the published army list books.

The ...

jdm wrote:thanks for this, it slipped my radar

is there any FOG events going on?

JDM

There was a (sort of) theme on Friday, about 18 players in 15mm (650 points) and 4 with 25s (600 points). Strangely, lots of pike armies even though we were playing on a 6x4.

Once the rear rank is full, any further bases will be in the rear rank - a new rear rank.

There is a diagram that will make this crystal clear.

I think the issue here is that a group 3 files wide and two ranks deep contracting by 2 files will gain 4 new rear RANKS. The implication of the use ...

Had my read through, so here are my thoughts, comments, questions:

(deep breath)

Why are the MU the same for 15s and 25s?

Target audience -
The rules seem to go out of their way to be friendly to noobs. I guess that makes sense, and would suggest adding some useful links or other "Getting Started ...

I am afraid the answer is much the same as how do I get on the beta :(

You need to send an e-mail or PM on the forum to JD (jdm). I think that PM's probably work best. Just let JD know who you are and what your forum ID is.

Cheers

Hammy

I've sent it to him twice, and assumed that he was ...

Folks -

Who can activate my account for the beta forum? I've read through the rules and have a number of questions and comments, and would like to post them.

Thanks
Bob

The link yields a 404 error

*edit*

The "non-fatal error" might also be due to some hardware or software on your own computer that is not allowing the PDF file to download properly.

Cheers,
Scott

I tried opening it with Acrobat 6 and got an error while loading, and the first page was blank. I ...