Hi,
Just yesterday I bought a new gaming laptop hoping that (among other things) it would improve PC2 gameplay. Unfortunately it did not. Game is still choppy and when I scroll the map and only has 30 FPS. The laptop specs are Ryzen 7 4800H, 16 GB RAM and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660Ti, GDDR6 6GB. When I run the game in turbo mode there is slight improvement in scroll speed but it's still 30 FPS. Logs are in the attachment.
PC2 slow and laggy
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PC2 slow and laggy
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fluffybunnyuk
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Re: PC2 slow and laggy
Do you have FPS limit checked in the video options? or set to 30 FPS?
I get 47 fps on a haswell i5, and a gt1030 gfx, and thats before tweaking when i can hit 60fps.
Your other problem is power. its a laptop.... Which means its seriously gimped in terms of performance vs a desktop pc of similar specs.
A 54 watt CPU and 80 watt GPU if the specs are to be believed. However laptops that actually draw close to 150 watts are rare and get very hot.
It also explains why your performance could be worse than my 6 year old desktop pc. Single core speed is only 16% faster and that assumes your running it at 100% constantly without thermal throttle of 50%
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The specs dont mean alot if its heavily throttled by power limits. The wiki might claim the gpu performs the same as the desktop one despite 50% less draw, and 10-15% less clock but thats probably on paper before its gimped by the power loss, and heat problems.
I get 47 fps on a haswell i5, and a gt1030 gfx, and thats before tweaking when i can hit 60fps.
Your other problem is power. its a laptop.... Which means its seriously gimped in terms of performance vs a desktop pc of similar specs.
A 54 watt CPU and 80 watt GPU if the specs are to be believed. However laptops that actually draw close to 150 watts are rare and get very hot.
It also explains why your performance could be worse than my 6 year old desktop pc. Single core speed is only 16% faster and that assumes your running it at 100% constantly without thermal throttle of 50%
.
The specs dont mean alot if its heavily throttled by power limits. The wiki might claim the gpu performs the same as the desktop one despite 50% less draw, and 10-15% less clock but thats probably on paper before its gimped by the power loss, and heat problems.
Re: PC2 slow and laggy
I had similar issues with Panzer Corps 2 on my new gaming laptop, and it has an RTX 2070 GPU.
My solution is inline with what fluffybunny has said:
Going into the game's video/graphics settings and making adjustments cleared it right up, especially the 30 FPS issue.
I suspect they made that the default to not strain people on lower end machines, but I can't say for sure. Either way, those settings are the ticket to smoother and better looking graphics on higher end machines.
My solution is inline with what fluffybunny has said:
Going into the game's video/graphics settings and making adjustments cleared it right up, especially the 30 FPS issue.
I suspect they made that the default to not strain people on lower end machines, but I can't say for sure. Either way, those settings are the ticket to smoother and better looking graphics on higher end machines.
Re: PC2 slow and laggy
Panzer General ran so beautifully on PCs from 1995. Imagine if you could go back to 1995 and tell people that by 2020 Panzer General will bring even the best machines to their knees for reasons that have nothing to do with gameplay. Would they believe it?Kerensky wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:30 pm I had similar issues with Panzer Corps 2 on my new gaming laptop, and it has an RTX 2070 GPU.
My solution is inline with what fluffybunny has said:
Going into the game's video/graphics settings and making adjustments cleared it right up, especially the 30 FPS issue.
I suspect they made that the default to not strain people on lower end machines, but I can't say for sure. Either way, those settings are the ticket to smoother and better looking graphics on higher end machines.
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fluffybunnyuk
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Re: PC2 slow and laggy
I would. I remember playing the early Hardware&Lighting games with software emulation for that.
Going back to the 80s i remember graphics that used to take 5 seconds to render the putting green on links 386 golf, despite having a shiny new Trident 8900 1MB ISA card.
The problem comes down to designers using the latest £1,000 GPU when designing, and wondering why it doesnt run well for people using £100 GPUs.
Be thankful this didnt have DX12 have a minimum requirement....
I've got my nice Acorn A310 from 1987 , with its beloved 1st gen ARM chip@8MHZ, and 1MB RAM, it wordprocesses, and renders webpages faster than my 32core xeon server....
Just wait until people want to play panzer core 2 in 8k with HDR.... your probably looking at 16GB-24GB of VRAM as a minimum to render it.
As much as the 2080 range seem overpowered, it still be well short of what we'll be using in 5 years time when 4k gaming will be seen as the entry level, and people will be chasing 8k cards.
Going back to the 80s i remember graphics that used to take 5 seconds to render the putting green on links 386 golf, despite having a shiny new Trident 8900 1MB ISA card.
The problem comes down to designers using the latest £1,000 GPU when designing, and wondering why it doesnt run well for people using £100 GPUs.
Be thankful this didnt have DX12 have a minimum requirement....
I've got my nice Acorn A310 from 1987 , with its beloved 1st gen ARM chip@8MHZ, and 1MB RAM, it wordprocesses, and renders webpages faster than my 32core xeon server....
Just wait until people want to play panzer core 2 in 8k with HDR.... your probably looking at 16GB-24GB of VRAM as a minimum to render it.
As much as the 2080 range seem overpowered, it still be well short of what we'll be using in 5 years time when 4k gaming will be seen as the entry level, and people will be chasing 8k cards.
Re: PC2 slow and laggy
Computer professionals of the day would just quote Parkinson's law
Early versions of Excel needed 50 floppy disks to install.Work expands to fill the time available.
Software bloat is as old as the Hard Drive, alas.
There comes a time on every project when it is time to shoot the engineer and ship the damn thing.