captured units

[scorehouse]

how do I purchase and or deploy captured units? I've captured several Russian Tanks and wish to use them I click on the purchase new units, go to captured tanks, click on the tank I desire, and it doesn't give it to me? help

[Kerensky]

Captured equipment is limited by the amount you've captured. It's not unlimited like German stocks of equipment.

The number in parenthesis tells you your stock on limited items T-34/85(7).

If you really like fielding enemy units, you definitely need to capture a lot of them, and then probably want to have Trophies of War character trait to really boost your ability to stockpile enemy equipment parts.

[monkspider]

I think the game could stand to be more generous with captured units. I like the idea of being able to capture ANYTHING, Pokemon style, but I think the default should be getting double what you "capture" at least. Otherwise, it is just too hard to field a unit for more than a battle just due to attrition and enemy air attacks, etc. I also realize this restriction may be historically accurate, but from a gameplay perspective, it can be a little unsatisfying. You could justify it maybe by saying that various extra enemy reserves get captured from our conquests and battles across the front.

[scorehouse]

I have 4 different tank units I want to deploy but the game will not allow me to purchase them. I don't understand. the purchase button is lit up but once I click it goes back to one of my own tank unit in the undeployed column??

[scorehouse]

the 4 different r all captured Russian Tanks. the game will allow me to purchase all the German tanks I want

[SineMora]

You need to have captured at least 10 steps of an enemy unit to be able to field it, corresponding to one full unit. The number in parenthesis above it indicates how many you have; if this number is below 10 you won't be able to field one.

[scorehouse]

thanks that's it. so does it just stay there unusable?

[SineMora]

Yes, unless you capture more and field them or delete the entries. You gain the prestige value when you capture them (it's automatically added to your total prestige pool).

I think the game could stand to be more generous with captured units. I like the idea of being able to capture ANYTHING, Pokemon style, but I think the default should be getting double what you "capture" at least. Otherwise, it is just too hard to field a unit for more than a battle just due to attrition and enemy air attacks, etc. I also realize this restriction may be historically accurate, but from a gameplay perspective, it can be a little unsatisfying. You could justify it maybe by saying that various extra enemy reserves get captured from our conquests and battles across the front.

There is a trait for that, though. That said trait is also the best for increasing your prestige makes it a good choice in general, although many of the better units are so common that you can get enough of them even w/o it, e.g., T-34/40.

[scorehouse]

The T's r what im talking about. 2 have (2), 1 (4), 1 (6) i'm I waiting too long to capture them or decimating the unit before I capture it? if the later, I don't know how to capture without causing all the damage?

[panzeh]

The T's r what im talking about. 2 have (2), 1 (4), 1 (6) i'm I waiting too long to capture them or decimating the unit before I capture it? if the later, I don't know how to capture without causing all the damage?

Without trophies, it's pretty much impossible to reliably field any enemy unit. The easiest way to capture a unit is to surround it until it gets fully suppressed, then find a unit that does 1 damage, splitting if you have to, to force it to retreat and surrender.

With trophies that can get you 18 strength worth. Without, you get 9, and that's the ideal situation. You'll usually get significantly less. The prestige award is quite worthwhile, but the prospect of using captured equipment, particularly when most of it is behind the curve anyway is not.

[SineMora]

Units are captured when they are forced to retreat but have nowhere to go, or when they're out of movement points. To force a unit to retreat you need to make sure their entrenchment level is at base level and then inflict half of their unsupressed strength or more in casualties in one hit. To capture as many steps as possible you want to supress a unit fully, ideally w/o harming it at all, and then hit it with a low-damage attack to trigger the surrender (even a 1-point attack will force a surrender if a unit is fully supressed).



If you really want to field enemy units you should consider Trophies of War, though, because w/o it you need very careful planning to reliably field units, and even then some are nearly impossible because they only show up once or twice in an entire campaign.

[scorehouse]

by T's I meant T-34/40 tanks. if you have a unit surrounded will it surrender anyway or do u have to decimate it? also I don't understand how Trophies come into play? I understand Heroes?

[scorehouse]

I always check the "trophies of war" box if that's what you mean?

[panzeh]

I always check the "trophies of war" box if that's what you mean?

Yes.

A unit surrenders if it tries to retreat and can't, either because it's blocked or it's used all of the next turn's MPs. To get a unit to retreat, you need to do an attack that does 2/3s of its unsuppressed strength in damage. The easiest way to do this is to attack with a unit that does 1 damage once the enemy unit is fully suppressed(their suppressed strength matches their remaining strength, their strength number will be red).

A unit that's encircled will take 2 suppression per turn just from that in addition to not clearing suppression.

[scorehouse]

thanks