90 degree turn reforming

Rattleshirt · Post by **Rattleshirt** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:18 pm

Ok, this came up in a game the other night...

90 degree turns... the basic mechanism for the turn is that the turned BG needs to have it's new front edge at least the # of bases "so that the width of the turned group is at least as wide as it was deep before turning". (pg. 44) Ok, fine.

The question is, what is the "maximum" width of the new edge? For instance, a 4 base BG of HF turn 90 degrees. They were 2x2... so depth was 30mm (using 15mm scale here). So, legally, they could meet the above by forming in a column of 1 wide x 4 deep. But frankly, as the player, I'd want them to maintain 2x2 formation. And, according to the above, that's legal because the new front edge (80mm or two bases) is "at least as wide as it was deep" (30mm or 2 HF bases) before turning.

Anyone got a problem with that? Is there something I'm missing somewhere else in the rulebook? Clarity please.
Steve B

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:57 pm

Rattleshirt wrote:Is there something I'm missing?

Yes. The word "minimum".

"The new front edge must consist of the minimum number of bases so that the width of the turned group is at least as wide as it was deep before turning."

Rattleshirt · Post by **Rattleshirt** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:12 pm

Thanks for the quick answer, Mr. Scott.

But, since I'm classified as "slow on the uptake", that means in my heavy foot example, the BG turning MUST be in the column of 1 base wide x 4 bases deep, correct?

Again, thanks.

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:06 pm

Yep 1 by 4 in the new direction.

So the upshot is turning often complicates your fomration in that new direction.

Now LH and CV units that are 2x2 actually end up 2x2 in the new direction which is pretty nifty.

And 2x4 pike units end up 2x4 which is another reason people like pikes in 8s.

Rattleshirt · Post by **Rattleshirt** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:04 pm

Thanks Hazelbark!

And 2x4 pike units end up 2x4 which is another reason people like pikes in 8s.

Now I see the logic. I'm building up some Swiss right now

... hmmm.. It still complicates all my other moves, but I'll learn to deal.

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:49 am

Rattleshirt wrote:
Now I see the logic. I'm building up some Swiss right now ... hmmm.. It still complicates all my other moves, but I'll learn to deal.

Bleck Swiss.

May you always fight in uneven terrain.

Now a small swiss command I can tolerate, but not a whole army of them

Rattleshirt · Post by **Rattleshirt** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:47 am

Bleck Swiss.

May you always fight in uneven terrain.

Well, my army of medieval Frenchmen getting caught in the mud has the same problem. I think you and my friend zulu have alot in common. Lousy longbows... past couple of games, I just can't seem to keep from becoming a pincushion.

With the Swiss.. I'll have better screening and my spears will be longer than his!! (I'm praying!)

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