Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
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Dux Limitis
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Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
I checked the province units of the greek and thracian provinces,but I didn't find the skirmish or massed
peltasts,is there some thing wrong with the game or just I didn't find it.But I think it was not my mistake because I tried to play each nations who owned those provinces but still can't hire them.
peltasts,is there some thing wrong with the game or just I didn't find it.But I think it was not my mistake because I tried to play each nations who owned those provinces but still can't hire them.
Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
you certainly can get the Thracian provincial unit if you hold the thrace Province - I've done this a number of times. If I recall it translates to FoG2 as a thracian peltast with rhompaia (forgive my spelling of this).
best to let someone who really knows FoG2 reply to the second bit but I believe that is how the mercenaries recruited for Greek army translate as some sort of peltast
best to let someone who really knows FoG2 reply to the second bit but I believe that is how the mercenaries recruited for Greek army translate as some sort of peltast
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Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
Yes,I tried then,the thracian warrior in the empire will translate as the massed thracian peltasts in the fog2,but I didn't see any of them been translate to skirmishers,skirmisher peltasts are more useful and important.loki100 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:11 pm you certainly can get the Thracian provincial unit if you hold the thrace Province - I've done this a number of times. If I recall it translates to FoG2 as a thracian peltast with rhompaia (forgive my spelling of this).
best to let someone who really knows FoG2 reply to the second bit but I believe that is how the mercenaries recruited for Greek army translate as some sort of peltast
Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
Some units are only available with higher level buildings.
Could that be the reason?
Could that be the reason?
Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
most units have a 1-1 translate (the early Roman legion is the exception), but you can recruit more generic skirmishers (I guess come across as javelin armed LI)?Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:27 pmYes,I tried then,the thracian warrior in the empire will translate as the massed thracian peltasts in the fog2,but I didn't see any of them been translate to skirmishers,skirmisher peltasts are more useful and important.loki100 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:11 pm you certainly can get the Thracian provincial unit if you hold the thrace Province - I've done this a number of times. If I recall it translates to FoG2 as a thracian peltast with rhompaia (forgive my spelling of this).
best to let someone who really knows FoG2 reply to the second bit but I believe that is how the mercenaries recruited for Greek army translate as some sort of peltast
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Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
Seems it doesn't works,let's wait the devs,to see what will they say.loki100 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pmbut you can recruit more generic skirmishers (I guess come across as javelin armed LI)?Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:27 pmYes,I tried then,the thracian warrior in the empire will translate as the massed thracian peltasts in the fog2,but I didn't see any of them been translate to skirmishers,skirmisher peltasts are more useful and important.loki100 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:11 pm you certainly can get the Thracian provincial unit if you hold the thrace Province - I've done this a number of times. If I recall it translates to FoG2 as a thracian peltast with rhompaia (forgive my spelling of this).
best to let someone who really knows FoG2 reply to the second bit but I believe that is how the mercenaries recruited for Greek army translate as some sort of peltast
Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
If you play as Dacia you have recruitable superior Thracian skirmishers with the correct building and start with 3 units of them for info. I am just trying out Dacia now which is now I know.Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:54 pmSeems it doesn't works,let's wait the devs,to see what will they say.loki100 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pmbut you can recruit more generic skirmishers (I guess come across as javelin armed LI)?Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:27 pm
Yes,I tried then,the thracian warrior in the empire will translate as the massed thracian peltasts in the fog2,but I didn't see any of them been translate to skirmishers,skirmisher peltasts are more useful and important.
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Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
I do not understand
The Peltastes (originating in Thrace) are Skirmisher
Why can not they attack from a distance?
The Peltastes (originating in Thrace) are Skirmisher
Why can not they attack from a distance?
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Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
Thracia,not the Dacia,how could Dacia hire the Thracian peltasts?devoncop wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:30 pmIf you play as Dacia you have recruitable superior Thracian skirmishers with the correct building and start with 3 units of them for info. I am just trying out Dacia now which is now I know.Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:54 pmSeems it doesn't works,let's wait the devs,to see what will they say.
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Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
Because "massed" peltasts(both greek and thracian)act as medium foot in the fog2.But skirmisher peltasts can attack from distance.thierry2015 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:55 pm I do not understand
The Peltastes (originating in Thrace) are Skirmisher
Why can not they attack from a distance?
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Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:09 amThracia,not the Dacia,how could Dacia hire the Thracian peltasts?devoncop wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:30 pmIf you play as Dacia you have recruitable superior Thracian skirmishers with the correct building and start with 3 units of them for info. I am just trying out Dacia now which is now I know.Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:54 pm
Seems it doesn't works,let's wait the devs,to see what will they say.
Dacia was populated with a mix of Thracian,Ionian and other tribes so native Thracian skirmishers would have been used.
Also Thracian Mercenaries as you know were widely travelled.
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Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
I do not understand The Peltastes (originating in Thrace) are Skirmisher Why can not they attack from a distance?
I understandBecause "massed" peltasts(both greek and thracian)act as medium foot in the fog2.But skirmisher peltasts can attack from distance
But at FOG 2 can not we have
--- one medium foot (may be less strong)
AND Mostly
--- one skirmisher ???
Indeed for example to the battle of sphacteria
800 Peltastes and 800 archers defeated 420 Spartans
(the Athenian Hoplites having refused the fight)
Please give us Peltastes Skirmishers
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Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
It's already have skirmisher peltasts in fog2,but,in the empire for now I didn't see any export have skirmisher peltasts,and I didn't see any thracian spearmen too,it did have in the original fog2,speak honesty I don't understand and don't like the unit's translation,just make the game like the totalwar,what you hire,then what will you use.And most important thing is empire and fog2's units' name and correct models are worlds apart and dividid,the normal units which can hire not totally based on the fog2's army lists,likes when I play the Epirus in the empire,but I can't hire the macedonian-style lancers,in fog2's Pyrrhus of Epirus' army list it did have.And,some times you will never know what will your units in empire translate as what when export to the fog2.thierry2015 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:14 amI do not understand The Peltastes (originating in Thrace) are Skirmisher Why can not they attack from a distance?I understandBecause "massed" peltasts(both greek and thracian)act as medium foot in the fog2.But skirmisher peltasts can attack from distance
But at FOG 2 can not we have
--- one medium foot (may be less strong)
AND Mostly
--- one skirmisher ???![]()
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Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
Did you ever see the thracian spearmen unit when export?I didn't see and don't know how to hire them now.devoncop wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:52 amDux Limitis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:09 amThracia,not the Dacia,how could Dacia hire the Thracian peltasts?
Dacia was populated with a mix of Thracian,Ionian and other tribes so native Thracian skirmishers would have been used.
Also Thracian Mercenaries as you know were widely travelled.
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Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:59 pmDid you ever see the thracian spearmen unit when export?I didn't see and don't know how to hire them now.devoncop wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:52 amDux Limitis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:09 am
Thracia,not the Dacia,how could Dacia hire the Thracian peltasts?
Dacia was populated with a mix of Thracian,Ionian and other tribes so native Thracian skirmishers would have been used.
Also Thracian Mercenaries as you know were widely travelled.
Sorry I don't export my battles.
I prefer the battles played out in Empires as a decent FoG2 player I feel gets an unfair advantage in Empires against the fairly predictable FoG2 AI.
Also I prefer the better flow of the strategy if battles are played in Empires.
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Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
Damn,seems I only can try it by myself,I hate this game now because of this.devoncop wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:10 pmDux Limitis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:59 pmDid you ever see the thracian spearmen unit when export?I didn't see and don't know how to hire them now.
Sorry I don't export my battles.
I prefer the battles played out in Empires as a decent FoG2 player I feel gets an unfair advantage in Empires against the fairly predictable FoG2 AI.
Also I prefer the better flow of the strategy if battles are played in Empires.
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Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
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Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
It's not the peltast,peltast have it's model in the fog2,with helmet,pelta and javalins,and it's armor stage is "protected". Open the fog2 and see the greek army lists,then you'll know what's the peltast looks like.
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Re: Where to hire thracian and greek peltasts?(massed and skirmisher)
yes in FOG 2 the Greek list = belowIt's not the peltast,peltast have it's model in the fog2,with helmet,pelta and javalins,and it's armor stage is "protected". Open the fog2 and see the greek army lists,then you'll know what's the peltast looks like.
but then where are the Peltasts skirmishers ?
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