Ruler/Measurement Tools/Thingies

[jhs]

Hi, I am a new player, and one of the people teaching me the game has a set of measurement tools that I would like to find a set of. They are used in the drawings in the rulebook--pages 62-63, for example--and are basically metal tubes cut to varying lengths (my opponent has 2,3,4,5 and 6 inch) with inches marked on each. He thought he had ordered them through an online shop in the UK, but couldn't remember which. Any guesses? Thanks very much.

[domblas]

type measuring tools steel bases 15 mm on google u may find the website of ian carbut

feel the steel


ian any reward for this?

[Albion1]

I have a set of those but I find I invariably use the devices found on this forum.
They are excellent - I believe they were posted by someone from France.
All you need is a good colour printer. You may have to go back a good few pages to find them.

[Albion1]

Apologies to Juan - he is Spanish, and his fine handiwork is here

http://www.fieldofglory.fr/IMG/pdf/Gauges_InchHigh.pdf

[daveallen]

If you're interested in something a little sturdier than Juan's excellent devices I make a measuring set at a very reasonable price.

They're made of 3mm acrylic and are available in the colours shown (red, blue & clear).

There is a 3"x4"x5" triangle and a 1",2",6" & 7" rectangle thingy, each edge is marked with inches for ease of measuring.

If anybody would like to buy a set they are £5 plus P&P (50p UK, £1 Europe & £1.50 elsewhere). Email me off-group, or see me at Roll
Call, Warfare, etc.

Regards,

Dave Allen

[Redpossum]

type measuring tools steel bases 15 mm on google u may find the website of ian carbut

feel the steel


ian any reward for this?

OMG, talk about scary cyclical. I did that search as you suggest above, and one of the hits was a link back to this thread

Here's the page. I can't make heads or tails of it, though.

He babbles on about 15mm, 25mm, and 40mm in such a way that there's no telling whether he means the increments of movement, the scale of the figures, or what the heck.

IMO, he should just clearly state the dimensions and markings of the tools, and let gamers figure out for themselves what they want to do with it

Brilliant and beautifully made tools, no doubt. But so poorly indexed and described that there's no way to find what I want.

[bobm]

For FoG you need one of the 15mm imperial sets, it says 1" = 50 paces then lists the rods in paces.
Obviously aimed at DBM originally...but the basing and move distance increments are the same in 15mm.
If using 25mm then it depends which distance convention you use, if 1MU = 40mm then a 25mm DBM set,
if 1MU = 1" then a 15mm set but the "spacers" won't be much use.

[Redpossum]

For FoG you need one of the 15mm imperial sets, it says 1" = 50 paces then lists the rods in paces.
Obviously aimed at DBM originally...but the basing and move distance increments are the same in 15mm.
If using 25mm then it depends which distance convention you use, if 1MU = 40mm then a 25mm DBM set,
if 1MU = 1" then a 15mm set but the "spacers" won't be much use.

Doh! Thanks, Bob.

I had no clue what he meant by "imperial". The only time I use that word in connection with units of measure is to differentiate the 25%-larger units of liquid measure used in the UK.

Like a US cup is 8 fl oz versus UK cup is 10 fl oz, and US gallon is 128 fl oz versus 160 fl oz "imperial" gallon.

But I see now he is using the word as a generic term for the whole "inch system" of measurement.

And to be honest that business with paces was the final "WTF factor" that made me give up

DBx may be moribund, but the vendors are slow catching on, it seems. I see so many websites that chunter on and on about DBx and never mention FoG

[lawrenceg]

For FoG you need one of the 15mm imperial sets, it says 1" = 50 paces then lists the rods in paces.
Obviously aimed at DBM originally...but the basing and move distance increments are the same in 15mm.
If using 25mm then it depends which distance convention you use, if 1MU = 40mm then a 25mm DBM set,
if 1MU = 1" then a 15mm set but the "spacers" won't be much use.

Doh! Thanks, Bob.

I had no clue what he meant by "imperial". The only time I use that word in connection with units of measure is to differentiate the 25%-larger units of liquid measure used in the UK.

Like a US cup is 8 fl oz versus UK cup is 10 fl oz, and US gallon is 128 fl oz versus 160 fl oz "imperial" gallon.

But I see now he is using the word as a generic term for the whole "inch system" of measurement.

And to be honest that business with paces was the final "WTF factor" that made me give up

DBx may be moribund, but the vendors are slow catching on, it seems. I see so many websites that chunter on and on about DBx and never mention FoG

Ironic that those Americans fought a war to get out of the British Empire, but are now the only people still officially using the British Imperial measurement standards.

[Redpossum]

Ironic that those Americans fought a war to get out of the British Empire, but are now the only people still officially using the British Imperial measurement standards.

Not actually, Lawrence. Our ancestors fought a war to end the practice of treating us as a conquered people. It wasn't disloyalty of ingratitude or any of that. It was just "being reduced under a long train of abuses" that left us with no option but "an appeal to arms and the god of hosts."

Had the residents of the 13 colonies been afforded the same treatment given to the British people at home, that revolution would never have happened, and we'd still be members of the commonwealth.

It's worth noting that even in 1776, only one third of the US populace supported the revolution. One third were loyalists, and the final third apparently just didn't care.

And of course it's also worth noting that the American Revolution was on its last dying gasp when Lafayette arrived to save our collective ass

I'm not at all angry or offended or anything like that, just discussing historical events. But there have been a few such comments here in the recent past, and I felt the need to offer an opposing view.

[philqw78]

no option but "an appeal to arms

Yes fed up by getting ripped off by our (British) politicians taxing you, you got your own to do it in a more sneaky way

US gallon is 128 fl oz versus 160 fl oz "imperial" gallon

Tax it the same. George washington I believe

Makes you want to be a pacifist

[lawrenceg]

And of course it's also worth noting that the American Revolution was on its last dying gasp when Lafayette arrived to save our collective ass

Most Brits are unaware of this, all occasions when the French beat us having been expunged from British history.

[nikgaukroger]

Along with our kings to all intents being Frenchies for a long time ...

[philqw78]

Ahh, but they're good honest Germans now, our friends since time began

[nikgaukroger]

In the words of Tom Lehrer:

"We taught them a lesson in nineteen eighteen,
And they've hardly bothered us since then."



From "The MLF Lullaby" IIRC.