Late Teuton

MagisterRolf · Post by **MagisterRolf** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:59 pm

Not sure what else to do with the list since it is fairly dull... what do you think of this?

Inspired commander 80 pts
Troop commander 35 pts
2 x 4 brother knights 2 x104 pts
2 x 4 crusader superior knights 2 x 92 pts
3 x 4 LH Turcopole 3 x 28 pts
6 order spearmen 42 pts
6 order crossbowmen 42 pts
6 subject foot archers 30 pts
6 subject crossbowmen 36 pts
4 mounted crossbowmen 44 pts
4 unprotected handgunners 16 pts
= 799 pts

frederic · Post by **frederic** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:38 pm

2 generals is not enough.
3 BG of knights should be enough.

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:31 am

IMHO

3xBG of Brother Knight, 1 BG Vassal Knights, minimum
Lots of turcoples
This will cover any open ground. You have subject foot that can cover rough going, just a pity its mostly poor.

Then I should really add it up.

The main thing is, concentrate on what your army is good at

MagisterRolf · Post by **MagisterRolf** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:08 pm

Ok version 2.0: How many knights can i get in 800 pts?

1x inspired commander
1x troop commander
3x4 brother knights
2x4 crusader knights
3x4 LH turcopoles
6 subject archers (poor)
4 mounted crossbowmen
6 town militia crossbowmen (poor)
4 unprotected handgunners

=800 pts

Better?

babyshark · Post by **babyshark** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:00 pm

MagisterRolf wrote:Ok version 2.0: How many knights can i get in 800 pts?

1x inspired commander
1x troop commander
3x4 brother knights
2x4 crusader knights
3x4 LH turcopoles
6 subject archers (poor)
4 mounted crossbowmen
6 town militia crossbowmen (poor)
4 unprotected handgunners

=800 pts

Better?

I might dump the IC in favor of two more TCs. Two generals is probably not enough, and the net +2 you have for your PBI isn't enough to give you a good chance at either terrain control or first move.

Marc

MagisterRolf · Post by **MagisterRolf** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:19 pm

I do actually get +3 pbi, but i see your point.

Another option is to drop 2 bases of crossbowmen, make the 4 remaining average instead and go for field commander + 2 troop commanders, an idea which i actually think i fancy.

frederic · Post by **frederic** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:42 am

Playing with 5 BG of Knights is cool and surely beautiful, but you should ask what to do with them

- against medieval armies with a lot of spearmen or pikes (eg : medieval german)
- against medieval shooty cavalry armies (eg : russian and lithuanians)

I didn't received the book yet, so I don't know what you could have to replace some Knights BG but 5 is too much and too expensive.

Fulgrim · Post by **Fulgrim** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:45 am

5 BG:s of knights might work (since 3 of the are drilled) - 2 commanders are worse (well Ogglas used a IC + FC combo once that worked, but that was with FF covering the mid third of the table).

vs pike/spear you def.sp. wont do much anyways and vs shooty cav = secure one flank, swing the line a bit and push them of table with the knights.

MagisterRolf · Post by **MagisterRolf** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:08 pm

This list feels a lot more stable....

1 Inspired commander
2 Troop commander
4 Brother knights
4 Brother knights
4 Brother knights
4 Crusader knights
8 Subject foot spearmen (Average)
4 Turcopolen (LH)
4 Turcopolen (LH)
4 Turcopolen (LH)
6 Subject foot archers (Average)
4 Mounted crossbowmen
4 Vassal crossbowmen
4 Handgunners

=800pts