Soviet Corps Battle of Western Europe - no triumph possible?

[Andy2012]

Hi guys,

I love the DLC Soviet Corps, well done.
I finished it on Field Marshal. However, during the last scenario (Battle of Western Europe, Soviets vs. US, British and some German stragglers), I obliterated the western allies' core units (as is needed for a triumph) and still got 'just' a victory.
The core units have the golden layer around the strength points, right? Those were all gone after 13/16 turns, just left the support / non-core units (no golden layer around the strength number) on the map. Still got just a victory.
Either the scenario description is off or the trigger is not programmed correctly. (Guess it's the second...)
Does anybody else have the same problem?

[88mmFlak]

I had the same outcome - just a normal victory - as I managed to destroy EVERY single core unit of the western allies in this mission. But I already played soviet corps the second time at this stage and in fact I got a triumph as I previously played the western europe mission. The difference in that game before was that I destroyed the dam, which triggers the triumph outcome if you also destroy every other core unit. I think there is an error in the triumph-trigger of that mission if you just destroy every core unit without destroy the dam itself, too.

[robman]

I won a triumph, destroying the dam and the core units (the "golden" ones). I only played it once, so I don't know what would happen if you destroyed all of the core units without destroying the dam. I also don't know what would happen if one of the core units somehow got stuck on the left side of the map after destruction of the dam--presumably, a triumph would become more or less impossible--but that may not be possible by virtue of scenario design.

Much to my surprise, I found Manchuria to be vastly more difficult than Western Europe. There is no deus ex machina to save the day in Manchuria, and for all practical purposes there is no difference between the conditions for Victory and Triumph. I was able to pull off non-Loss only on the third try, and only with liberal application of the "disbanding" button.

[Andy2012]

I had the same outcome - just a normal victory - as I managed to destroy EVERY single core unit of the western allies in this mission. But I already played soviet corps the second time at this stage and in fact I got a triumph as I previously played the western europe mission. The difference in that game before was that I destroyed the dam, which triggers the triumph outcome if you also destroy every other core unit. I think there is an error in the triumph-trigger of that mission if you just destroy every core unit without destroy the dam itself, too.

Oh yeah, the dam. Almost forgot the damn dam.
It is in the mission description, but I never got the message with the order to destroy it. I think it is the hangar around the minefields, right?
I destroyed that with a tank and an IL-10 when I first saw it, then the sabotage team (14 strength engineers) arrived and I was unsure what to do with them.
My strategy for this mission was mostly tanks and heavy howitzers, 4 IL-10 and several La-7 fighters, then race towards the Elbe and obliterate the Allies while they have the rivercrossing disadvantage. Worked like a charm. That's probably why the trigger misfired - I never got so desparate that blowing up any dam was necessary.

So, summed up - if you do too well and carve through the AI like a cake, you won't get a triumph.

Or how did that scenario play out with you guys? Is there any benefit in a triumph apart from the warm, fuzzy feeling? I mean, it is the end of the campaign anyway. The only thing that bothers me is that I won everything else with a triumph on Field Marshal.

[robman]

Is there any benefit in a triumph apart from the warm, fuzzy feeling? I mean, it is the end of the campaign anyway. The only thing that bothers me is that I won everything else with a triumph on Field Marshal.

It's worth playing again to see the awesome consequences of destroying the dam (which, as you discovered, you have to wait to do when told).