Ordonnance French...

OhReally · Post by **OhReally** » Fri May 30, 2008 12:42 pm

I'm playing around with the idea of having a Ordonnance French army painted for me while I'm working on my Macedonians. One of the reasons I chose this list was because it was small, and I figured teh guy in Hong Kong would be able to get them knocked out quick meaning I would have a fully army painted as I finish up my Maks.

I was considering a list something like this, could people please make some suggestions?

Ordonnance men-at-arms
Ordonnance men-at-arms
Ordonnance men-at-arms
Ordonnance longbowmen
Ordonnance longbowmen
Ordonnance longbowmen
Stakes
Crossbowmen (medium, drilled)
Swiss Pike
Swiss Crossbow LF
Swiss Handgunners LF
C-inC
Troop Commander
Troop Commander
Troop Commander

798 Points

OhReally · Post by **OhReally** » Fri May 30, 2008 1:21 pm

Troop Type Bases Cost Total
Ordonnance men-at-arms 4 26 104
Ordonnance men-at-arms 4 26 104
Ordonnance men-at-arms 4 26 104
Ordonnance longbowmen 6 9 54
Ordonnance longbowmen 6 9 54
Ordonnance longbowmen 6 9 54
Stakes 9 3 27
Crossbowmen 8 7 56
Swiss Pike 8 8 64
Swiss Crossbow 4 5 20
Swiss Handgunners 4 4 16
Francs Archers 6 4 24

C-inC 50
Troop Commander 35
Troop Commander 35

j2klbs · Post by **j2klbs** » Fri May 30, 2008 4:40 pm

I don't have the list handy, but my initial reactions are as follows:

* I much prefer 8 bases rather than 6 for your longbowmen. They are a little more durable that way. But more importantly, they can concentrate more firepower on the enemy (remember that 2nd rank bases only get 1 shot for every two, so IF these BG's are forced to act independently, the 8-base BG's will get 6 shots to the 6-base BG's 4 shots).

* In my games, it frequently is more beneficial to have a stong foot melee unit rather than a 3rd unit of knights - if heavy weapon are available, you may want to consider them.

* I don't like making C-in-C's FC's. I would rather them be either TC's or IC's. I usually reserve FC's for doing outflank marches. I would suggest IC+2TC or 4TC.

* I would consider using the points invested in your crossbowmen into a foot melee unit since your longbowmen are so superior to crossbowmen anyway.

Cheers!
Jason

KingHassan · Post by **KingHassan** » Sat May 31, 2008 7:41 pm

You are welcome to borrow my French to try different lists.

OhReally · Post by **OhReally** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:21 am

KingHassan wrote:You are welcome to borrow my French to try different lists.

That would be great, I'm 18 bases of pike, one BG of slingers and 12 of cav painted for my macs so I'm a long ways away from having a fully painted army. What ever possesed me to paint 48 bases of pike is beyond me! I'm thinking about going Selucid Successor so I can soak up points with elephants until I can get everything painted lol.

Dakadave · Post by **Dakadave** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:49 am

Thats what Im am thinking when I realize I have to paint 24 MORE bases of Low Countries pike.I really like the offensive spear list now...well maybe.

KingHassan · Post by **KingHassan** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:17 am

We need more painters in the Atlanta area.

If anybody local wants to paint for hire or has painted lead for sale just sing out.

OhReally · Post by **OhReally** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:10 pm

Ok, back on the subject of this list. I'm paying a guy in Hong Kong to paint the army up for me and plan on getting enough models to form it up however I want for different games.

Here is the current list of what I am thinking about, please let me know if I'm leaving anything out:

Model # of Base
Ordonnance Knights 12
Ordonnance Longbowmen   16
Francs Archers 6
Stakes                                      8
Swiss Pikemen 12
Polearms Infantry 8
Polearms Infantry 8
Swiss Crossbow   4
French or Italian Handgunners     4
Light Guns 2
Commander 1
Commander 1
Commander 1
Commander 1
Commander 1
(having some command based in different ways to reflect how they locally represent command)