No Kamikazes in the game

[bcnkor5]

Midway after playing an single scenary, the game is missing something important, the Special Unit of Attack Japanese Shinpu, planes loaded with 250 kg bombs impacted their targets deliberately in an effort to sink or damage them so badly that they could not return to battle.

We hope that the new unit updates are added as the Kamikazes was historically correct.

[bebro]

There's a Kamikaze specialisation in the game you can choose. Not at Midway though IIRC, but later.

[simcc]

Kamikaze specialization is broken IMO. Don't make sense if you gave us when Japan is winning should be avail in midgame

[paswin79]

The first officially recorded Kamikaze attacks were not until the Leyte Gulf Campaign in October 1944, with the first casualties being escort carriers off the coast of Samar. these were the Santee, Suwannee, and St Lo on October 25th. There were recorded attacks by crippled Japanese Aircraft deliberately crashing into ships but not on an organised basis. ( Try Samuel E Morison ,Official History of United States Naval Operations in WWII, Volume 12, Leyte).
Hopefully therefore there won't be any Kamikaze units available till then as Midway was in June 1942.

[simcc]

@Paswin, record of history was after Leyte where American first notice the Kamikaze. But in Midway those aircraft that was airborne when those carrier sink (talk about that where is Kaga carrier lol) those aircraft did make an effort to crash into American carriers.

[bebro]

Kamikaze specialization is broken IMO. Don't make sense if you gave us when Japan is winning should be avail in midgame

I certainly agree that it is quite a stretch when you're winning as Japan. Though as long as the feature is working I wouldn't say it's broken. The prob seems rather that excluding it totally would have prompted more "why is there no Kamikaze" requests, like the one in the OP

[Myrddraal]

Also, when playing the US campaign, the AI will start to use the kamikaze specialisation in later scenarios.

So yes, kamikaze are definitely in the game.

[simcc]

oh my bad shouldn't use broken lol its working fine just the entry need to be early for IJ player hehehe

[Dragoon.]

bcnkor2, what you mean with Midway no Kamikazed. Real Kamikaze unit formations, or that Japanese pilots in deliberate acts made suicide attacks once their planes suffered critical damage?

[TangSooDo]

Two thoughts on the Kamikazes -- First, as already stated, they were not present at Midway. However, one looser definition would be any IJN pilots who attempted suicide attacks as also pointed out. Second, echoing James Jones in his book, WWII, in a sense the USN torpedo bomber pilots were suicidal in making their runs -- they went in fully aware at very low speed, at very low altitude, with unreliable torpedoes and without fighter escort. But they went in.

[bcnkor5]

Paswin: Ok I see my mistake, October 1944, thanks for the rectification.

"The first officially Recorded Were not Kamikaze attacks Until the Leyte Gulf Campaign in October 1944, THEREFORE Hopefully there will not be any available till then a Kamikaze units as Midway was in June 1942."

[bcnkor5]

agoon: Yes, I mean new special unit.

Wiki Kamikaze: Birth of the Special Unit. Vice Admiral Onishi, who instituted the Panel Attack tokkōtai.El October 19, 1944 Vice Admiral Takijiro Ōnishi, who was in command of the First Air Fleet of the Imperial Japanese Navy, Vice Admiral Onishi stressed that the only effective way to achieve this goal, from his point of view, it was to implement a panel formed suicide attack Zero fighters loaded with 250 pumps kilogramos.26 the meeting continued until the early hours of October 20, which was formalized training panel . Inoguchi commander proposed to name the special unit as Shinpu.

[Jagon]

Playing the American campaign, I first noticed the Kamikaze at Okinawa.
Btw Devs, I just finished Okinawa and the game wouldn't continue if I chose the British Pacific Fleet. Tried several times but it wouldn't continue the campaign.
So, after reloading, I chose the atomic option and the game continued.