Spears POA Question

[triplec]

If I have a battle group of six spears and they loose a base in the 2nd rank does the entire battle group loose the "+" POA for having at least 2 ranks. I had a situation like below


G1 G1 G2 G2
SP SP SP SP
SP SP SP


Against battle group2 they are clearly missing a second rank but for battle group1 they have the full two ranks.

[Fugu]

POA is calculated per column. So only that one column would loose the POA. The other two would retain it

[hammy]

This seems to be something that keeps on cropping up. I think it is because in WAB if you start with a full rank it still counts as a rank as long as any of it is left. The same is not the case in FoG.

[lawrenceg]

This seems to be something that keeps on cropping up.

Is it in the FAQ then?

[rich0101]

I don't think it needs to be in an FAQ, because it is in the book.

[hazelbark]

I don't think it needs to be in an FAQ, because it is in the book.

Oh sure make people read the rules.

[hammy]

I don't think it needs to be in an FAQ, because it is in the book.

Oh sure make people read the rules.

Possibly one for common misconceptions as it really is very clear in the rules.

Alternativley the first line of the FAQ could be something like "Try reading the relevant section of the rules again, that means reading the whole of the relevant section, not just skipping the bits that you are sure you already know"

[miffedofreading]

I will add it to my common mistakes for newbies thread

[carlos]

First line of FAQ:

RTFM

[hazelbark]

Alternativley the first line of the FAQ could be something like "Try reading the relevant section of the rules again, that means reading the whole of the relevant section, not just skipping the bits that you are sure you already know"

It is true that if you pause to read the section then it ussually becomes clear. But that patience is often hard in the middle of a game, but imho more important in the early going. Last game my opponent wanted to know where to find a rule i mentioned not because he didnt trust me. But because he wanted to become familiar with where it is so when he needs to point it to someone else he knows where to look for it.

[hammy]

Alternativley the first line of the FAQ could be something like "Try reading the relevant section of the rules again, that means reading the whole of the relevant section, not just skipping the bits that you are sure you already know"

It is true that if you pause to read the section then it ussually becomes clear. But that patience is often hard in the middle of a game, but imho more important in the early going. Last game my opponent wanted to know where to find a rule i mentioned not because he didnt trust me. But because he wanted to become familiar with where it is so when he needs to point it to someone else he knows where to look for it.

No problem with that. Infact I often encourage opponents to check the rules if they are not sure and help find the pages.

What we don't want though is a huge FAQ which essentially says exactly the same as the rules do hence the idea of a common misconceptions thread.

[hazelbark]

What we don't want though is a huge FAQ which essentially says exactly the same as the rules do hence the idea of a common misconceptions thread.

wise

[ars_belli]

What we don't want though is a huge FAQ which essentially says exactly the same as the rules do hence the idea of a common misconceptions thread.

Hmmm... you don't suppose that this is all part of a conspiracy to get the entire rule set posted in the FAQ, thus allowing "thrifty" wargamers to avoid having to purchase the book, do you?

Cheers,
Scott

[lawrenceg]

What we don't want though is a huge FAQ which essentially says exactly the same as the rules do hence the idea of a common misconceptions thread.

If a question is frequently asked then by definition it deserves to be in the FAQs.

If the answer is perfectly clear in the rules, then put the answer as "see page xxx, paragraph yyy".

No harm in putting it in the common misconceptions thread too, or the index requests for that matter.

[shall]

I don't think this one is that common though - just a beginners query (quite undertandably).

Si