Turning 90 with Elephants and Lt Art (25mm)

[daveallen]

Following on from another thread, can Elephants and Lt Art in column turn in 25mm

They have a depth of 80mm. This is good in that a line of either will turn and form a line but bad because a strict reading of the rules means that a column can't turn.

Opinions?

[nikgaukroger]

Don't use elephants in 25mm

[rogerg]

Or you could argue it is good that the elephant column cannot turn. This encourages deployment of the elephants before the fighting starts. I am not aware of any battle accounts where elephants manouvered around like cavalry.

[hammy]

Or you could argue it is good that the elephant column cannot turn. This encourages deployment of the elephants before the fighting starts. I am not aware of any battle accounts where elephants manouvered around like cavalry.

True but they can in 15mm hence the question

[WhiteKnight]

Totally agree about the relative unmanouverability of jumbos, at least in "western" armies...dont know anything about Indian etc styles of fighting.

However, doesnt seem right that there is an inconsistency between play/rules in the two scales...either we allow jumbos to turn or we dont, after all the bases sizes are often more a convenience for the size of model, esp in the larger scale.

I would favour the unmanouverable jumbos option but suspect tis too late to in 15mm terms to reverse this so will have to go for an exception in 25/28mm.

As an aside, would all the above discussion aslo be true for 25/28mm chariot BGs?

Martin

[nikgaukroger]

I'd assume it is just an oversight and that these troops can, in fact, turn.

The absense of a clarification in the FAQ is just a conspiracy against Dave's "Plastic Macs" sponsored by Tim Porter

[daveallen]

The absense of a clarification in the FAQ is just a conspiracy against Dave's "Plastic Macs" sponsored by Tim Porter

Aha, the meta conspiracy of Porter, BHGS and Provisional WRG is revealed!

Actually, I don't mind which way the ruling goes just so long as I know before I deploy my nellies. The ability to turn from line to line is far more valuable than turning from column at all.

Dave

[triplec]

What am I missing about turning 90 Degees.

The rules state "the width of the turned group is at least as wide as it was deep before turning"

In the diagram at the rules show a battle group that is 2 deep and after it turns to the left it's only 1 wide. Well if it was at least as wide as it was deep it should be 2 wide.

[lawrenceg]

What am I missing about turning 90 Degees.

The rules state "the width of the turned group is at least as wide as it was deep before turning"

In the diagram at the rules show a battle group that is 2 deep and after it turns to the left it's only 1 wide. Well if it was at least as wide as it was deep it should be 2 wide.

The depth and width are measured in MU, not bases.

[nikgaukroger]

Well cm/mm actually as that is what the bases sizes are in