I was hoping to find some diagrams.....
So could an author please give me a view on these please? Please confirm which qualify as rear support.
And hopefully if I've followed Hammy's instructions properly there are 4 photos here?
Cheers
Pete
Rear Support - Help Needed
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petedalby
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Rear Support - Help Needed
I continue to struggle with rear support (sorry Richard!)
I was hoping to find some diagrams.....
So could an author please give me a view on these please? Please confirm which qualify as rear support.
And hopefully if I've followed Hammy's instructions properly there are 4 photos here?
Cheers
Pete
I was hoping to find some diagrams.....
So could an author please give me a view on these please? Please confirm which qualify as rear support.
And hopefully if I've followed Hammy's instructions properly there are 4 photos here?
Cheers
Pete
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nikgaukroger
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Take the last photo as an example, geometrically you ask yourself:
1. Is the "supporting" battlegroup behind the forward one with at least half the number of bases of the supported BG at least partly behind? Here you project the rear edge of the BG backwards and the supporters must be at least partly in tat zone.
2. Are they within 8MUs (12MUs for mounted supporters)?
3. Is any part of the supported group forward of the front line of the supporters (not necessarily directly ahead)? Here you don't project just the base width forwards, it is a line parallel to the front edge. This, I think, is the one Nik os referring to as "close"
Paul
1. Is the "supporting" battlegroup behind the forward one with at least half the number of bases of the supported BG at least partly behind? Here you project the rear edge of the BG backwards and the supporters must be at least partly in tat zone.
2. Are they within 8MUs (12MUs for mounted supporters)?
3. Is any part of the supported group forward of the front line of the supporters (not necessarily directly ahead)? Here you don't project just the base width forwards, it is a line parallel to the front edge. This, I think, is the one Nik os referring to as "close"
Paul
Yes all these qulaify
Basically the supported BG has to be at least partly ahead of the supporters, which we measure by extending the front edge of the supporting BG to either side. If part of the supported BG is ahead of that line and other conditions are met it is OK. So it works well in conjunction with the supporters having to be directly behind with sufficient bases.
In the last example if you pvit the supporters about 10 degrees clockwise you would be getting to the limits and drifitng out of support position.
It is there to stop supporters facing backwards - something all you comp die hards would realise to be very attractive if allowed as you could run away if your front line started to crack...!!
Without such a point you will get HF warriors deployed facing backwards which would be about as realistic s a Serbian general releasing his knights and running for the hills (not that we have ever done that
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Si
Basically the supported BG has to be at least partly ahead of the supporters, which we measure by extending the front edge of the supporting BG to either side. If part of the supported BG is ahead of that line and other conditions are met it is OK. So it works well in conjunction with the supporters having to be directly behind with sufficient bases.
In the last example if you pvit the supporters about 10 degrees clockwise you would be getting to the limits and drifitng out of support position.
It is there to stop supporters facing backwards - something all you comp die hards would realise to be very attractive if allowed as you could run away if your front line started to crack...!!
Without such a point you will get HF warriors deployed facing backwards which would be about as realistic s a Serbian general releasing his knights and running for the hills (not that we have ever done that
)Si