Page 86 Bases eligible to fight in melee diagram

[miffedofreading]

The light horse on the right appear to have two files fighting, one as an overlap even though their opponents base depth is less than one base width, i.e. there is not even corner to corner contact on the overlapping file. Is this correct?

Thanks

Andy

[rbodleyscott]

The light horse on the right appear to have two files fighting, one as an overlap even though their opponents base depth is less than one base width, i.e. there is not even corner to corner contact on the overlapping file. Is this correct?

Overlaps - see Manouevre Phase section.

I don't have the diagram in front of me, but does the following cover your query?

 Front corner to front corner and side edge to side edge contact with a friendly base facing the same direction that has all or part of its front edge in contact with the flank edge of an enemy base. (The base in overlap may therefore not be in contact with that enemy base.) This situation can occur when a flank contact is made on a base that is wider than it is deep.

[miffedofreading]

Richard, yes that is exactly the situation.

Thanks, understood

Andy

[pbrandon]

Looking at the diagram on page 86 what I am less clear on is why the right hand rear element of BG "B" (the rear of the pair contacted in the flank by the light horse) is not turned to face the LH? I don't think the LH could have moved there as an overlap and if they charged, shouldn't the rear element have turned? What am I missing?

Paul

[hammy]

Looking at the diagram on page 86 what I am less clear on is why the right hand rear element of BG "B" (the rear of the pair contacted in the flank by the light horse) is not turned to face the LH? I don't think the LH could have moved there as an overlap and if they charged, shouldn't the rear element have turned? What am I missing?

Paul

Paul, I think that you may have found a problem (well also found a problem), there was a post in the last day or so asking that very question. I tried to come up with a reason for the LH being how they were and could not think of a circumstance where this could happen.

We need author input I suspect

[pbrandon]

I think I can come up with a sequence of events that ends like this, but it is a bit contrived.

(i) the LH on the RHS charge into the flank before any of the other BGs are in contact, but not as a flank charge, and include a wheel to end up as they are. As it is not a flank charge no element turns to face.

(ii) the other charges happen

(iii) in the manoeuvre phase the LH cannot line up to the front as they are required to do "if possible" (p.57, last bullet)

So I think it is just about possible.

Paul

[rbodleyscott]

Well it is only an example to show the exclusion of the bases A from fighting, but if you must have a rationale:

The LH were side edge to side edge to the Romans (facing down the page), and turned 90 degrees to face the Romans in the manoeuvre phase. The Romans were not obliged to turn to face.

You guys need to get out more.

[madaxeman]

Thanks Richard

There was me thinking they'd ended up there as a result of a charge to contact the flank which didn't start in the right place to actually count as a "Flank Charge" - but where the light horse figures were moved into contact before charge of the troops fighting the same enemy to the front.

Tim
(who is out)
www.madaxeman.com