LORDS OF THE EAST, circa 640 AD

[fogman]

The LORDS tournaments

old series (army selection, mirror games)
01. Lords of the Steppes, circa 1400 AD
02. Lords of Khurasan, circa 1000 AD
03. Lords of the Western Mediterranean, circa 550 AD
04. Lords of Italy, circa 280 BC
05. Lords of the Holy Land, circa 1100 AD
06. Lords of Italy, circa 280 BC, 2nd edition (run by lydianed)

new series (no army selection, new scoring system)
07. Lords of History, cavalry battles
08. Lords of the Steppes, circa 1400, 2nd edition
09. Lords of Asia, circa 200 BC
10. Lords of History, 2nd edition, Greek battles

11. Lords of the East, circa 640

Lords of the East, circa 640 revolves around the events of the Sassanid Byzantine wars, the Bulgar invasion, and the rise of Islam, in the early to mid 7th century.

Starting date: Sat May 10th.

Armies:
Umayyad Arab 685-750 (this i believe is a superior representation of arab conquest armies)
Maurikian Byzantines (later) 550-650
Sassanid Persians (later) 591-628
Christian Nubians (early) 550-1174
Early Bulgars (early) 680-802

Battles:
Arabs vs Byzantines
Arabs vs Sassanids
Arabs vs Nubians
Sassanids vs Byzantines
Bulgars vs Byzantines

Restrictions:
Umayyad Arabs: max 35 BGs; 4 leaders (1 Inspired, 3 troop); no light troops; no dailami/turkish/khurasanian/berber; minimum 10 HF.
Maurikian Byzantines: max 35 BGs; 4 leaders (1 Inspired, 3 troop); no light troops; minimum 10 HF/MF (excluding archers); avg cavalry > or = sup cavalry.
Sassanid Persians: max 35 BGs; 4 leaders (1 Inspired, 3 troop); no light troops, no mob; cavalry + elephants = 15 maximum.
Christian Nubians: max 50 BGs; 4 leaders (1 Inspired, 3 troop); no light troops; avg archers > or = sup archers.
Early Bugars: max 35 BGs; 4 leaders (1 Inspired, 3 troop); no light troops; avg cavalry > or = sup cavalry; minimum 10 MF.

Terrain:
Very Open

Schedule

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read horizontally. for example, in round 1, player 1 will challenge players 2 and 4 and receive challenges from players 3, 5, 6. first named army is played by challenger. for example, in round 1, player 1 will play as Byzantines vs player 2's Sassanids.

Scoring
percent of enemy losses x10

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[batesmotel]

I'm interested based on what you have so far under construction. Given how expensive the core troops are for the Sassanids and the prohibition on light troops you might well want to allow them to use mob. I put together a trial Sassanid list with these constraints but including only 1 mob and it came to a total of 23 BGs.

Chris

[fogman]

did you use 500 pts?

[batesmotel]

did you use 500 pts?

Yes, 500 points. Barring using Arab allies, there aren't many cheap BGs for the Sassanid's. I had one HF and one mob of the levy spearmen in my list to reach 500 points. No elephants but all these!lured Dailami Guards. I probably found have dropped something and bought more HF levy. May e the thing to do is to decrease the required number of commanders. 4 commanders is a bit much for 23 BGs.

Chris

[ulysisgrunt]

This looks quite interesting...
Danny Weitz

[ulysisgrunt]

What about one of the early Western Turkish or Early Khazar lists?
Danny Weitz

[fogman]

did you use 500 pts?

Yes, 500 points. Barring using Arab allies, there aren't many cheap BGs for the Sassanid's. I had one HF and one mob of the levy spearmen in my list to reach 500 points. No elephants but all these!lured Dailami Guards. I probably found have dropped something and bought more HF levy. May e the thing to do is to decrease the required number of commanders. 4 commanders is a bit much for 23 BGs.

Chris

My test army has

7 sup arm horse archers
4 sup cataphracts
2 elephants
6 MF archers
11 HF spears
4 arm dailamis
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34 BGs

[fogman]

What about one of the early Western Turkish or Early Khazar lists?
Danny Weitz

One of the battles I envisaged was western turk/khazars vs bulgars before the latter's migration to the balkans. Adding this requires the creation of a new master schedule but can also increase the number of players. We'll see.

[fogman]

Recruitment open. Start date 10 May.



Each round lasts 3 weeks and is comprised of 5 games per player.

Players MUST post and pick up all challenges within 5 days of start date for each round. Failure to do so will result in forfeit.

If you join, please make sure you can adhere to those conditions.

[iandavidsmith]

As usual i would like to partake in this series
Cheers
Ian

[gianfrancocimino52]

I'm interseted, too, I would like to win the 3rd conscutive "wooden spoon" !

[ricoual74]

me either, thanks fogman for your great turnaments.

[rexhurley]

Arh yet again too as they have certainly been a pleasant change from other events.

Regards Rex

[fogman]

we have

fogman,
idandavidsmith,
gianfranco,
ricoual,
rexhurley,

one more and we have at least one pool.

I have posted in the scenario thread, the test scenarios for the 5 different matchups so you can see what armies can be built and how they play against each other.

[batesmotel]

I'm in.

Chris

[ulysisgrunt]

Consider me for a reserve position.

Danny Weitz

[fogman]

Consider me for a reserve position.

Danny Weitz

You can have my spot for this one. I can use the time off to focus on some scenarios.

[fogman]

Final schedule is in first post.
Tournament to start on Saturday 10 May.
All challenges to be posted by Friday 16 May or you will be unceremoniously removed.
If you can't keep to the conditions, withdraw now. It's unfair to other players and organizer otherwise.

Settings: no Fog of War, no Double Moves.
Make sure armies are built correctly.

[ulysisgrunt]

Many thanks....
I'll start posting Saturday AM Pacific time.
Danny Weitz

[rexhurley]

My three challenges up pw = Rexie

So thats batsey v the Nubians, Ulysis v Arabs, Ricoual v Arabs

Cheers Rex