Can you compare this game with RTW : BI?

[lol]

hehe , I was laughing , im sorry , but guys , im from RTW community , I love that game , is the best game of all , I saw some post in this forum , and some guys from here say that RTW copy ideas of games of Slitherine , are you joking? who says that your idea is original ?? guys from here only attack RTW , so I ask myself ? what can this funny guys do against RTW? its an excellent game + the EXCELLENT MODING COMMUNITY , hehe , your game is good , but RTw is better , you know why? because offer us players a lot of moding opportunities , for example the Mediaval Mod for RTW , the Alexander The Great mod , the LOrd of the rings mod , a lot of them , all are excellent mods , what can you do against that?? hehe , well im not sayingthat your game is bad , but im saying that RTW is a lot better , good bye funny guys .

[sol_invictus]

Well, that was special. Personally, I like both the TW games and Slitherine's stable. The more the merrier I say.

[sum1won]

I am amazed and stunned that you have so much knowledge of a game that has yet to come out. And the former games do encourage modding- however, as the community is smaller, there are not as many.

BTW, I think that you will be pleasently surprised if you try out the games. Go on. And the technical support you get here is to die for.

Personally, I have never played the expansion pack, because I disliked the ai in RTW- it was actually worse than the one in MTW.

However, I have to say you seem to be a better guy than the previous RTW fanatic we had here.

And whoever said Total war stole from slitherine, or vice versa, is a silly idiot.

There was a post on the lines of saying that it is silly that some TW players dislike Slitherine games and accuse them of copying, when the reverse is just as likely- more likely, considering legion came out LONG before RTW. However, that post goes on to say that this is silly either way, as the source of both is the same- history.

[lol]

Well maybe i was a little agressive , forgive me , but that situation make me angry , im sorry =) , maybe we can have peace , yea I said that RTW Bi is better than legion arena , Im sure , but its my opinion , i think that is very hard to defeat RTW modding community , yes its true , The AI of RTW is bad , but in BI had been improved , I only ask that you guys dont blamme RTW , that you dont say that RTW copy ideas of Slitherine Games , let the people decide.

Finally , Im going to try this game , Legion was one of my favorite games , I dont like Spartan , but this game , Legion Arena , sounds good , but i think that RTW is better , because a lot of things , the first one is because I dont like a lot RPG games , but im gooing to try , second , i love rome TW huge armies , they have more civilizations , sieges , etc.
and BI have a lot of new features like hordes , new formations , maybe have some bugs , no one is perfect , but I love RTW modding community , guys try those mods like SPQR mopd , RTR , The Fourth Age , Chivalry Total War , Age of Hellas , EB , a lot of mods , I love that and personally I thin that no one can beat RTW in that feature , not yet...

cheeers
peace!

=) A Strategy Player.

[anguille]

I believe that both games are very different. Legion Arena is focused on your army and the battles. The budget and teams for both games are very different. I find amazing what Slitherine has been able to produce these last years and the progress is they make with each game is unbelievable.
One of the greatest strengh of Slitherine's games is the AI. I am also a player of the Total War series and i did react a couple of times (some time ago) to people who claimed that Slitherine was copying. Actually we should be happy to have different options in a theme that we like (Rome). Glad you'll try Arena, it's fun.

PS. Welcome in this forum...

[IainMcNeil]

I think the claims of copying came is response to our announcment of some features in Legion Arena such as night battles and victory conditions in battles. A few months later the BI expansion was announced with night battles and victory conditions. It's very possible that these were already planned and there is no way to verify it either way, so live & let live

Personally I believe Legion Arena will be a very different experience to RTW. We don't plan to beat it or be better than it - we plan to be different from it.

[efthimios]

This reminds me of the old atari vs amiga, sega vs nintendo, ps2 vs xbox etc. Why can't you like both games? Why must one be superior (for the gamer) than the other? Can't we all get along?
Besides, Spartan is better than RTW for the reasons mentioned earlier. If you can't have a good AI in a strategy game, what do you have?

As for Legion Arena, wait for it to come out, play it, then diss it if you want to. At least wait for the demo.

[ste]

As Iain says, Legion Arena will be something different from Rome TW. If everyone just tried to copy everything else, things would just stagnate at a certain point, and whats the point in that?

[pompousdivinus]

I don??™t think you can compare a battle (tactics) game with a game that combines strategy and battle tactics. All I can say is that so far it seems harder to win a battle in Spartan than in RTW??¦
But what actually will be most interesting is to compare RTW/BI and Legion II !
Because of its affiliation with SEGA imo RTW will lay more and more emphasis on graphics and action and simplify gameplay. To my mind Slitherine can therefore successfully attract the niche market of strategy& tactics fans that don??™t care that much about night battle effects or whether its cool to mod a pink dragon into the battle of Cannae but whether e.g. the AI is strategically as well as on the tactical level an acceptable opponent or not??¦.

[*Lava*]

Hi!

I don't think Slitherine as aiming at a "niche" market.

Competitors beware...

Ray (alias Lava)

[sol_invictus]

I really like the TW games and not meaning to point any fingers or accuse anyone of raiding ideas, but Slitherine games had their type of strategic map well before TW. If Slitherine can help CA make TW better, jolly good show.

[lol]

efthimios : are you sure that Spartan is better than RTW? because you say ? dont tell me this please , dont get me angry -.- , hehe , well , Spartan is a good game , but I dont like , i dont know , the fact that you cant control armies in battles dont like to me , where is the strategy? was nearly imposible flank an army or attack from behind or even retreat like in RTW , I love the huge sieges that you can have in RTW , walls , catapults , towers , the soldiers when they fall from the walls , hehe , well , yea its difficult to compare both games , i dont like a lot RPG games , but im going to try Legion Arena , I like Slitherine games , Legion I is an excellent game , hours , days , even months of fun =) , As a had said , I love the fact that you can mod easily RTW , there are a lot of mods than improve the AI , try SPQR mod , huge battles , for example , my last battle was between my Legion of 2100 romans vs 4300 germans ,I won =) , was a epic battle , long , heroic , I love those battles =) , SPQR is the best mod , and is from lt1956 , well that is all , and thanx for accepting me in this community =) , long life for Strategy games!

[ste]

hey lol, perhaps if your going to become an active member of the community (and your certainly a most welcome addition! ) maybe you should change your name before you get a decent post count that is of course, unless you regularly post under the alias "lol"

[sum1won]

hey lol, perhaps if your going to become an active member of the community (and your certainly a most welcome addition! ) maybe you should change your name before you get a decent post count that is of course, unless you regularly post under the alias "lol"

Yeah, change it to something substantial, like roflol. Seriously.

I think that one reason the AI is better in Spartan than in RTW is because the battle system in Spartan does not have quite so many different possible situations.

[lol]

lol i must change my name , lol? hehe , well this night im going to think a new name =) any sugerence?

[sum1won]

Heathen.

You prefer RTW to slitherine games (for now). It fits you perfectly, so, as long as you don't mind, I suggest the name heathen.

[duncan]

I wonder how many people from this forum have gone to the tw forums to tell them that "RTW sxxx, Legion roolz" kind of post. We'll get more of these as soon as Legion Arena is released. Sadly, It happens periodically.

About the mods: the mod community in TW is larger because the community is MUCH larger, not because the game is better. Reasons for larger community: better distribution, inflated publicity machine, CA has about 100 or so more employees than Slitherine....Larger community, more mods, more "better" mods. It's so easy to understand. Spartan is as moddable as RTW is (look at the tools in the Spartan sub-forum).

By the way, making Quake 3 (or was it unreal tournament) into a racing or football game surpases everything that people have done with RTW. Many action games has better mod community than RTW. Neverwinter Nights has a better mod community than RTW by miles. In strategy games, EU2 (and Paradox' games in general) has better mod community than TW series (Mongolian Scenario comes to my mind), better researchers and much more imagination and EU2 tools are better. Should I continue?

The sad thing is that most of the people of this forum do actually like RTW (I'm waiting impatiently for my BI copy, it should be here this weekend), but we play BOTH games...and many more.

[anguille]

I have both Shogun and Medieval TW. As the battles of Rome don't run on my computer, i am waiting for the Gold edition (R and BI) to test the Strategy map...that may take a year or two (i hope it's going to be patched to 1.3 as this seems to fix the load bug mentionned in the various forums)

[IainMcNeil]

Let's make sure this doesn't develop in to a we're better than them thread I'll have to close it down if it does!

[sum1won]

Let's make sure this doesn't develop in to a we're better than them thread I'll have to close it down if it does!

So, Do YOU prefer RTW? Huh? HUH? I've got my eye on you....