bridges moves and assualts

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pugsville
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bridges moves and assualts

Post by pugsville »

the rules say you can only assault units defending bridges in march column. want to clean any grey areas.


(a) move across a undefended bridge in tactical?

(b) assault a unit in tactical close to a bridge (less than 2 base depths)

(c) does such unit count as 'defending' the bridge (fighting across obstacle, must break to move) or must you be touchin gthe bridge to be defending?

(d) assault a unit in tactical more than 2 base depths from the bridge (room for the unit to be placed in tactical)
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Re: bridges moves and assualts

Post by deadtorius »

We have always allowed tactical moves over bridges if its undefended. Might have been wrong...

As for aussaulting it, I have always assumed the enemy would have to be on the opposite bank, with their front touching the river. This is the only way they can claim the river bank defense bonus. In this case the only way you could get at them across a chest deep river is the bridge down the road in assault column.
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Re: bridges moves and assualts

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Point B
If there is no room for your unit then you can't fit in to assault them. However in this case the only way you could get there would be to assault in column.

Point C
To count as defending an obstacle, bridge or riverbank in this case, the attacker has to be crossing said obstacle for it to provide defense bonus.
It is actually the river bank not the bridge itself so much that counts. Direction of attack would determine if you count as defending an obstacle or not.

Point D
After giving more thought, you would likely still have to assault in column. The more I think about it the only logical way to cross over a bridge would be in column, thus the longer time it took to get troops over rivers. Turn 1 you cross in column. Turn 2 you reform to tactical.
Or you form column and assault across the river. Once again though in this case the assault does not cross the bank so no defence bonus for defending obstacle.

If you want to defend a river or bridge the only way to gain obstacle benefit is to stand along the river bank and end of the bridge, so that your opponent has to cross over the obstacle to get to you.
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Re: bridges moves and assualts

Post by terrys »

(a) move across a undefended bridge in tactical?
You can do this using the same rule as for crossing a normal river - except that only a normal CMT is required even if the river is waist high or a surging torrent.
Of course an ankle deep river can be crossed as normal.
(b) assault a unit in tactical close to a bridge (less than 2 base depths)
Yes
(c) does such unit count as 'defending' the bridge (fighting across obstacle, must break to move) or must you be touching the bridge to be defending?
The defenders need to be
A unit doesn't defend the bridge as such - it defends the river - using the rules on page 79.

(d) assault a unit in tactical more than 2 base depths from the bridge (room for the unit to be placed in tactical)
If the enemy are more than 2 base depths from the bridge, they may only be assaulted by enemy in column.
The attackers options are:
> Assault across the bridge in column if the enemy are in charge reach - the attacker gets 4 (or 6) dice and a -POA, but the defender does not count as 'defending a river'.
> Cross the bridge in tactical (with a CMT) - and continue as normal next move.
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