Tournament tiebreaks

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kevinj
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Tournament tiebreaks

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(Copied from the Fog AM forum)

Every so often we get the situation where 2 or more people in a tournament finish with the same score. This can result in players not knowing how the final result was adjudicated and organisers having to decide at the time how to resolve it, neither of which is satisfactory for any of the parties concerned. I think it would be a good idea to have a standard way to resolve tiebreaks so that everyone knows what to do when it happens and how the eventual winner was determined. The following (in no particular order) are all methods that have been used or suggested:

1) Result of any head-to-head game between the players concerned.
2) Number of Army Breaks inflicted.
3) More granular scoring (using decimal values).
4) Results against common opponents.
5) Relative strength of opposition faced (based on their total scores/positions).

Which option (or sequence of options) do you think produces the fairest outcome?
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Re: Tournament tiebreaks

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3 is what the official FoG scoresheet mandates.
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Re: Tournament tiebreaks

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timmy1 wrote:3 is what the official FoG scoresheet mandates.
Is there such a thing as an official score sheet? It's not in the rules. http://www.fieldofglory.com/resources does have a scoresheet, but it's in the ancients and medieval section, doesn't have decimals and is not listed as being mandatory.
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Re: Tournament tiebreaks

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Graham

Apart from these piffling objections I was right through...?

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Re: Tournament tiebreaks

Post by quackstheking »

Hi Kevin,
great topic to raise and one that we should have some consistencty on and where [players know the method of splitting a draw!!!

I think I'm quite similar to Philqw78 on the ancients forum in that the results should be calculated in the following order:-

1) The result between the two players
2) The relative strength of the opposition based on the sum of their opponants finishing positions
3) The results expressed to the decimal point
4) In the event of this still resulting in a tie then both should be declared joint 1st (on the basis that there are only so many tie breakers that are valid and warranted!) - I don't agree that you should attempt to discover how many BG's were broken or the results against common opponants (this should be captured by (2)

We need to get this sorted!

Thank you Kevin

Don
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Re: Tournament tiebreaks

Post by gibby »

Personally, same 3 as Don but in different order.
3 then 1 then 2.

As it happens, I play quite frequently in France and from what I recall they always use the decimals and therefore rarely is their a tie.

cheers
Jim
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