Initiative Points

[Turk1964]

In my more recent games i dont seem to be getting any initiative points so i consulted the manual to find out why.Initiatives points are given for the following
Inspired commander=2pts
12-24 Cavalry,Camels,Light Chariot or Light horse =1 pt
More than 24 Cavalry,Camels,Light Chariot or Light horse=1pt

My latest game I have Ancient Spanish,mainly mf impact foot but i took an Inspired commander as i always do with horde armies.I recieved no points for the IC and rolled a 4 giving me 4 for initiative roll.My opponent had Later Carthaginian with what looks to be a little over 12 cav maybe 16 and an inspired commander. The initiative points he recieved were 4 plus rolled 3 total 7. Now according to the manual i should have recieved 2 Initiative points and my opponent 3.I believe this to be a bug as something isnt right here. Is anyone else having this problem? Some how i havent recieved any initiative points and this makes a huge difference to winning initiative.Could someone from slitherine explain what may be happening here?

Cheers Turk

[Morbio]

I too have wondered about this recently, the initiative calculation for the PC game can be found her http://fog-pc-wiki.wikispaces.com/Initiative (assuming it is accurate). In a series of recent games I invested heavily in Inpired (+2) and Field (+1) commanders and horse units (+2) and so expected to get initiative in most of the battles, I got it in none. I'm wondering if the bonus is only being calculated for the person receiving the invitation because I posted the battles for the opponent to accept.

[FedeM]

This is what the manual of the game (extracted from FOG wiki) says regarding initiative:

 The initiative goes to the side with the most initiative poinits:
 Inspired commander = 2 points
 12-24 cavalry, camels, light chariots or light horse = 1 point
 More than 24 cavalry, camels, light chariots or light horse = 2 points
 Your initiative score is the sum of the above plus the score of one six sided die.

Cheers!

[batesmotel]

This is what the manual of the game (extracted from FOG wiki) says regarding initiative:

 The initiative goes to the side with the most initiative poinits:
 Inspired commander = 2 points
 12-24 cavalry, camels, light chariots or light horse = 1 point
 More than 24 cavalry, camels, light chariots or light horse = 2 points
 Your initiative score is the sum of the above plus the score of one six sided die.

Cheers!

I think the actual calculation is:
IC = +2
5-12 cavalry, etc. = +1
> 12 cavalry, etc. = +2

Chris

[Turk1964]

Gday all. As i have stated its 2pts for an inspired commander.1 pt for more than 12 cav,camels,LC and LH . If you have over 24 Cav,Camels,LCand LH you get a further 1 point.This is stated in the game manual.I didnt recieve the 2 pts for an Inspired commander,which the Manual said i should of recieved.This is very strange and i feel there is a bug creeping in.

Can everyone keep their eyes on games played and see if points are awarded correctly for initiative as this is a crucial part of the game.I know there is noone to fix any problems with the current game and feel i am playing with a game that is basicly flawed at the momment.

[FedeM]

For checking i think yu can play with AI.

I didnt noticed the loss of the 2 pts for an IC still.

[Turk1964]

This is the first time ive noticed no points for an IC but i seem to be getting 0 initiatuve points a lot lately even with Cav armies.

[Morbio]

I agree that I think it's broken. It should be easy to test: Create some armies which meet the criteria for initiative points. PM them to a willing opponent, post the game and the willing opponent can reply with the points displayed. If it is correct, no issue, if it is wrong then Slitherine can investigate.

Turk: If you want to create some games for me to accept that would be fine - just PM passwords to me. and I'll PM the initiative scores back to you. We don't have to play them (unless you want to).

[Turk1964]

Thanks Morbio i will try and set up some games later and PM you the passwords. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of this

[Greetings44]

According to the table top rules (v1 ) There should also be a point for a field commander, but I've noticed in all my recent games this doesn't happen.

[Turk1964]

Yes Morbio and i agree that the Initiative point selection is not working properly I think its awarding points haphazardly and like i said ive had a game where i didnt even get points for an IC.My Palmyran army is never awardeed a point for an FC and have been taking an IC to make sure i get something.Yes its broken and im afraid theres noone to fix it Greetings so we just have to endure until the new version comes out