The AAR of Dyle plan(Peterjfrigate Axis vs Morris Allies)

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The AAR of Dyle plan(Peterjfrigate Axis vs Morris Allies)

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Hi everyone :

At first , I must say thank you to Mr Peterjfrigate for his article of Dyle plan ! It is a great article which well expressed the main idea of my Allies bliz strategy ! On my English lvl , it is difficult for me to accomplish an article like that !
To prove the theory Peter expressed , I start 2 AAR with Diplomaticus & Peterjfrigate (I will call them Diplo & Peter , their name is too difficult to my poor spelling ability ) to show how does this strategy works . BTW, the AAR with Joe is an exception . After the improvement of the original strategy , It is impossible to repeat Joe's great victory .

Turn one Sept 1 1939 fair

Axis Bliz Polland . But we found an arm absent from the attack with another INF . So It seems Axis will probably launch a bliz in the west next turn .
Allies launched bliz on Belgium & conquer it . Pollish did brave suside attack before their last minute .


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The important thing, it seems to me, is to do this on turn one (or under other circumstances where you know the Germans won't have a unit in position to take unoccupied Liege). Right?
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avoran wrote:The important thing, it seems to me, is to do this on turn one (or under other circumstances where you know the Germans won't have a unit in position to take unoccupied Liege). Right?
it is difficult for a axis unit to accomplish this mission when a corp is around Liege . If you want to confirm this , you'd better to do it on turn 2. I did it on turn 1 is I thought Axis would bliz me on turn two .(the absent of arm & INF)
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Interesting. The Dyle Plan seems like an interesting strategy, but in order to determine its effectiveness a full game has to be played, i.e. right to the end, because at a glance the DP seems to have several bad long-term effects.
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Anyone know what the effects are of pps lost in convoy and US production? I mean is it 6% for the rest of the game or does it gradually increase to normal?
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Crazygunner1 wrote:Anyone know what the effects are of pps lost in convoy and US production? I mean is it 6% for the rest of the game or does it gradually increase to normal?
We will caculate it later . Actually , Is it important to USA when USSR may come with full strength ? :)
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Morris wrote:Actually , Is it important to USA when USSR may come with full strength ? :)
I don't know about the game rules, but historically anything that affected the Americans' commitment to the war effort would also have affected the size of the convoys heading to Murmansk. :)
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Morris wrote:
Crazygunner1 wrote:Anyone know what the effects are of pps lost in convoy and US production? I mean is it 6% for the rest of the game or does it gradually increase to normal?
We will caculate it later . Actually , Is it important to USA when USSR may come with full strength ? :)
If you can hold off the Axis long enough in France, then no

But there is always a counter tactic to consider
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Crazygunner1 wrote:
Morris wrote:
Crazygunner1 wrote:Anyone know what the effects are of pps lost in convoy and US production? I mean is it 6% for the rest of the game or does it gradually increase to normal?
We will caculate it later . Actually , Is it important to USA when USSR may come with full strength ? :)
If you can hold off the Axis long enough in France, then no

But there is always a counter tactic to consider
You are quite right sir ! Tac & counter tac are always in upgrading .. :)
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Turn 2 Sept 21 1939 fair

Warsaw was so lucky to be a red one ! But no troops to do more suiside attack . In the west , Germans move into Belgium offense position .


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Turn 3 Oct 11th 1939 fair

Axis troops move more into Belgium ,but no offense & I did not find the absent tank . Maybe Axis will attack Holland first ?

BTW , my CV was attacked by two sub & lost 5 steps & in return Axis lost 6 steps sub . It was not a good business :(





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Big mistake by Peter and not moving in to take the fortress. Now you can hold the line probably the greater part of 1940. Perhaps even longer if he doesn´t produce adequate airforces. The only othere alternative for him would be to go thorugh the Maginot line
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The Axis needs to focus on air units. They need at least 4 TACs. Also, depending on how Morris uses his navy, rejecting the armistice and going for the Sea Lion and 1942 Barbarossa should be considered.
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Crazygunner1 wrote:Big mistake by Peter and not moving in to take the fortress. Now you can hold the line probably the greater part of 1940. Perhaps even longer if he doesn´t produce adequate airforces. The only othere alternative for him would be to go thorugh the Maginot line
Peter did want to move in to Liege , but He can't make it because of ZOC .
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Turn 4 Oct 31 1939 mud

since weather turn bad , Peter give up full offense in Belgium but kill a Gar beside Brusell & Preparing for the attack in next fair day .


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turn 5 Nov 20th 1939 fair

It seems the last fair day of 1939 , Axis give up the attack but move into the offense position of next fair day .


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Turn 6 Dec 10th 1939 winter


No fight this turn but Axis's sub 's attack .


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Turn 7 Dec 30th 1939 winter

Axis Dow Holland . It seems Axis want to kill Holland before fair weather coming ,sothat they can concentrate their power to attack France at the first fair day . They kill 2 Holland Gars , but did not attack Hague.



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Turn 8 Jan 19th 1940 winter

Quiet turn . Axis seems stop attack Holland & wait for fair turn .


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Our game is ahead of this AAR, which is why Morris invited me to contribute. I've had 3 continuous turns of mud through the winter, so my plans are on hold for now.
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