Upgrading of Axis Minors

syagrius · Post by **syagrius** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:41 pm

Does the Romanian, Hungarians share the same tech tree of Germany or of Italy? I noticed we can upgrade them however they dont have any research, so I assume they are on par with Germany?

vypuero · Post by **vypuero** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:46 pm

They are all 2 levels lower than Germany, so for instance if Germany has level 4, they can get level 2.

syagrius · Post by **syagrius** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:54 pm

Ahh..ok nice. Its true that they never managed to have the same quality equipment as the Germans. You guys tought about everything

Thanks Vyp.

Redpossum · Post by **Redpossum** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:00 pm

Yes, but there's some question whether upgrading minors is an effective use of always-scarce Axis resources.

If one does invest the Axis production in upgrading the minors, and they are damaged, does one then invest Axis production and manpower in repairing them?

firepowerjohan · Post by **firepowerjohan** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:11 pm

Countries have their own manpower and that is also one reason we do not want the minors having too high tech (hence -2) since they then become a life line that can be used to prevent German manpoer shortage.

vypuero · Post by **vypuero** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:47 pm

Actually a really cool thing is that because of manpower limits and upgrades - it is wise NOT to buy too many units, but enough that you will have money to keep them upgraded. It doesnt cost MP to upgrade (I think?) - I like to upgrade when a unit has lower strength, because then I can do repairs next turn and give it an extra rest turn to regain effectiveness, which it loses during upgrade.

davetheroad · Post by **davetheroad** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:49 pm

just discovered that repairing minor allies does not cost any manpower points, only pp

Redpossum · Post by **Redpossum** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:45 am

Oho!~

vypuero · Post by **vypuero** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:12 am

It costs the minor nation's manpower - use enough and you will get the low manpower warning(s).

davetheroad · Post by **davetheroad** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:27 am

What are minor nations manpowr limits?

syagrius · Post by **syagrius** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:28 pm

I think its worthwile to upgrade minors because on the Eastern front, I dont' have enough of german units to cover the whole front! All the southern part of the front is covered by Hungarians, Romanians, Bulgarians and Italians. If someone managed to cover the whole front with German units he must play with "Advantage Axis" set on!

vypuero · Post by **vypuero** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:55 pm

I used the same formula for them based on their population figures at the start of the war. I wouldn't suggest worrying much about it unless you get the warning. Not much you can do about it anyway.

I like to use the minors to garrison all my conquests as I push forward.