Strategy Article - The Tallinn Gambit

[rkr1958]

[Crazygunner1]

Is it worth it, paying 53pps to knock out Tallinn an getting maybe one turn head start on attacking Leningrad with 2 german corps?

[rkr1958]

Is it worth it, paying 53pps to knock out Tallinn an getting maybe one turn head start on attacking Leningrad with 2 german corps?

The normal cost is 16 PP's; i.e., the cost of two amphibious invasions.

[Morris]

The 32 turn is May 13th 1941 ,not May 8th .
If Axis make up their mind to take Leningrad ,it is worthy . But If Axis 's main offensive is in the south , it will become not necessary .
The cost of this stategy should be 8+8+10=26 pp( 8 for per transport, 10 for para)

[Crazygunner1]

Is it worth it, paying 53pps to knock out Tallinn an getting maybe one turn head start on attacking Leningrad with 2 german corps?

The normal cost is 16 PP's; i.e., the cost of two amphibious invasions.

What about the paradrops? You had to make 2 of them, thats another 15pp x 2 = 30pps. Maybe you can do it with just one?

[Crazygunner1]

Is it worth it, paying 53pps to knock out Tallinn an getting maybe one turn head start on attacking Leningrad with 2 german corps?

Makes it 46pp

[rkr1958]

Is it worth it, paying 53pps to knock out Tallinn an getting maybe one turn head start on attacking Leningrad with 2 german corps?

Makes it 46pp

Sure; but I usually use that paradrop somewhere else. And, I'd say 70 to 80% I can take Tallinn without having to use any paradrops.

I don't always execute this gambit. In fact, I'd say I try it probably 1/3 of the time. The upside is that it's nice to get that pesky Red sub group out of the way. And I find that it draws a lot of Russian forces to the north to defend Leningrad. This is a nice side benefit; especially when your main push is going to be through the center towards Moscow. Or, is it as telegraph going to be straight for Leningrad?

[rkr1958]

The 32 turn is May 13th 1941 ,not May 8th .
If Axis make up their mind to take Leningrad ,it is worthy . But If Axis 's main offensive is in the south , it will become not necessary .
The cost of this stategy should be 8+8+10=26 pp( 8 for per transport, 10 for para)

Morris, thanks. Corrected; but the updated slide isn't showing even after I hit refresh. It was updated, uploaded and replaced the original slide (photobucket). Though the update isn't showing, it's been updated.

With respect to cost, here's the results from my 10 trials:

1-5. TAC-BB-TAC-Inf-Inf* (16 PP's).
6. TAC-BB-TAC-Inf-Inf*-A/B-A/B (16 + 20 PP's = 36 PP's).
7. TAC-BB-TAC-Inf-Inf*-A/B (26 PP's).
8-10. TAC-BB-TAC-Inf-Inf* (16 PP's).

So the average cost over those 10 trials was 19 PP's. But; I like to look at broken down by percentage: 16 PP's -- 80%, 26 PP's -- 10% and 36 PP's -- 10%. Though, to really get a more exact breakdown I will need to run more trials, which I think I'll do. 25 trials should be enough. I'll report back when I have the results.

[rkr1958]