Triumph Of Nations

[Scrumpy]

Sorry if this has no doubt been covered....

Which armies are in this book ?

[hazelbark]

Lots

1809 Franch v Austria with the Italian and polish theaters
1812 Russia all sorts of sides.
1813 Spring and Autumn lists all sides.
1814 the drive from Germany to Paris.
1815 Waterloo Campaign
1815 other areas and armies that never saw action.
And some russo turk 09-12 stuff

All sorts of central europe minor allies everywhere. Danes, Bavarians, Saxons, Brunswick, Poland.

No Pennisula as they previously said it would be elsewhere.

So for someone like you who has a late period Prussian army this is the MUST buy book of the summer.

[david53]

Lots

1809 Franch v Austria with the Italian and polish theaters
1812 Russia all sorts of sides.
1813 Spring and Autumn lists all sides.
1814 the drive from Germany to Paris.
1815 Waterloo Campaign
1815 other areas and armies that never saw action.
And some russo turk 09-12 stuff

All sorts of central europe minor allies everywhere. Danes, Bavarians, Saxons, Brunswick, Poland.

No Pennisula as they previously said it would be elsewhere.

So for someone like you who has a late period Prussian army this is the MUST buy book of the summer.

Italians Naples Swiss and Swedish

[Scrumpy]

Does the Prusssian 1815 list vary greatly from the 1813 list in the rulebook ? Can I use the currently illegal 2nd Hussar unit I had in my original 1813 list ?

Cheers

[panda2]

The Prussians can field 2 units of hussars in 1812, spring 1813 and in 1815. They are only limited to 1 unit per corp in autumn 1813 and 1814 when presumably the regular army is heavily diluted by the large number of landwehr and spread rather thinly between each corp.

Andy D

[hazelbark]

Does the Prusssian 1815 list vary greatly from the 1813 list in the rulebook ? Can I use the currently illegal 2nd Hussar unit I had in my original 1813 list ?

Well the chief bits is the guards and Cuirassier are left with the Corps that was not in the Waterloo campaign.

AND MUCH heavy artillery options.
4-6 Med
2-3 Heavy
2-4 Med Horse
+1 att min per division.

That's what you call firepower. I am sure the french will be looking for a flank of this artillery mess

[KendallB]

Loving the book but it would have been nice if the Russo-Swedish war had been added. Not a complaint but perhaps a request in the future for a pdf.

[terrys]

Loving the book but it would have been nice if the Russo-Swedish war had been added. Not a complaint but perhaps a request in the future for a pdf.

Russo-Swedish war was 1808-1809. The lists for it are in the next book.

[KendallB]

OK. Thought as the real end-game stuff didn't happen until 1809 that it might pop up in ToN. Now to wait for the next book!

[Scrumpy]

As ever thanks for the replies, book is in the post (belated Father's day gift)

[MikeHorah]

OK. Thought as the real end-game stuff didn't happen until 1809 that it might pop up in ToN. Now to wait for the next book!

It was a " toss up" which to put it in but we felt it best to put it in the same book as the Dano Swedish war which overlaps. Once it had been decided to put all the lists into two bigger hardback books rather than the multiple thinner ones( as in the earlier FOG's) how one split between two more or less equally was a somewnat artifical judgment. And we felt that the selection for the first list book should gave the widest recognition of the armies that most Napoleonic players would be likely already to have.

[DuncA]

AND MUCH heavy artillery options.
4-6 Med
2-3 Heavy
2-4 Med Horse
+1 att min per division.

That's what you call firepower. I am sure the french will be looking for a flank of this artillery

Althoug this is probably a mistake; as it forces you to take 4 divisions.
Which is difficult to do below 800pts; and also stops you taking the division from the other list.

[hazelbark]

Althoug this is probably a mistake; as it forces you to take 4 divisions.
Which is difficult to do below 800pts; and also stops you taking the division from the other list.

I don't see anything forcing 4 divisions.

[gelin]

Yes you are forced since in page 158 it is stated that in mixed or infantry divisions no more than 1 artillery unit can be used. The 1815 prussian list has a minimum 4 artillery units.

[hazelbark]

Yes you are forced since in page 158 it is stated that in mixed or infantry divisions no more than 1 artillery unit can be used. The 1815 prussian list has a minimum 4 artillery units.

Who reads the Appendix! Terry I am going to beat you severely.

Is there any list with special instructions can have two batteries in a division.

I guess the work around for most is you buy large batteries.


But yep the 1815 Prussian is REQUIRED to have 4 divisions.

[gelin]

The problem with that is that the minimum 4 divisions are not intentional since the list promumvides only 2 division commanders. Apart from that, the absolute minimums on the list are 746 points. It needs serious amendments to lower it to 500 that Terry wrote should be the minimum for fog n armies

[Scrumpy]

Got my copy, the Spring 1813 Prussians look nice.

[hazelbark]

Got my copy, the Spring 1813 Prussians look nice.

Agreed.

[terrys]

The problem with that is that the minimum 4 divisions are not intentional since the list promumvides only 2 division commanders. Apart from that, the absolute minimums on the list are 746 points. It needs serious amendments to lower it to 500 that Terry wrote should be the minimum for fog n armies

I can see that as a problem. I'll have a word with Mike to see if we can argee to reduce the minima for guns before we post the errata. (should be out this week).

[bahdahbum]

One question :

The swedish list may include a prussian division . Why may it not include a russian one . At leipzig the army of the north included a russian corps ( Winzingerode ) Voronzov was also there . So why onl prussians ?